The Rule Of Screwing [Archive]

Tedium2007

Nov 21, 2007, 4:52 PM

Some people are slaves to the Rule of Screwing. Some people aren't.

For those who are slaves to it, there are two kinds of people in their perspective: those who do the screwing, and those who are screwed.

They define the screwers as the males, and the screwees as the females.

Anything that “allows” itself to get screwed is a screwee — and, therefore, female (which has connotations of inferiority).

So, when a man allows himself to get screwed, or a woman fails to allow herself to get screwed, they are violation the rule of screwing — and they simply can’t handle that breakdown of what they perceive as the “the way things are supposed to be”.

worse: since they consider it their *job* to screw, suddenly having something that isn’t female be screwee, it leads to the suggestions that since they are supposed to screw those things which are screwable, they are supposed to screw these screwee men.

And that scares the crap out of them, on a sub-conscious level.

Why? Because if they can screw another man, it means that men are screwable, and that would place them in the screwable position as well.

Which means they would be women.

Which scares them even more, because that would mean that they’d have to give up the privileges of being the screwer.

Its all nice and simple for them until this change to the heteronormative patriarchy raises its head.

They can’t deal with it. It becomes a logic bomb in their heads, and, in the end, what we get is a person for whom the most apt description, in light of the rule of screwing, is…

…screwy.

saw this on th' internet the yesterday(11/20/07). do you think it is true or false? why?

i think it's true based in part on my personal experience.

men seem to think that the run the show, and are tin gods because they get to be the screwers.

it really frightens some men that they are screwable. in my opinion they then feel it is alright to treat those people who are screwable(or like to be screwed) as less worthy of respect. i think this leads them to treating women, and bottoms as though they are common facilities for their enjoyment.

this is my humble opinion, please let me hear what you think.

thanks in advance

Skater Boy

Nov 21, 2007, 5:15 PM

since they consider it their *job* to screw, suddenly having something that isn’t female be screwee, it leads to the suggestions that since they are supposed to screw those things which are screwable, they are supposed to screw these screwee men.

LOL, Well I'm SCREWED if I know what the hell that means!

Seriously though... personally, I could handle being a "screwer" AND a "screwee". Although if I'm being honest I do dislike being a "screwee" somewhat because it kinda makes me feel vulnerable. but then that vulnerability is all part of the sexual pleasure, so I guess I'm kinda divided between body and mind. lets not forget that mainstream Western society does tend to groom its males to be dominant and invulnerable, so that might have something to do with why some men find bottoming difficult. But I'd guess that its less so amongst officially bisexual men than straight ones, obviously.

Anyway, screw this- I'm off to the bar for a Screwdriver!:bigrin:

diB4u

Nov 21, 2007, 5:44 PM

LOL, Well I'm SCREWED if I know what the hell that means!

Seriously though... personally, I could handle being a "screwer" AND a "screwee". Although if I'm being honest I do dislike being a "screwee" somewhat because it kinda makes me feel vulnerable. but then that vulnerability is all part of the sexual pleasure, so I guess I'm kinda divided between body and mind. lets not forget that Western society does tend to groom its males to be dominant and invulnerable, so that might have something to do with why some men find bottoming difficult. But I'd guess that its less so amongst officially bisexual men than straight ones, obviously.

Anyway, screw this- I'm off to the bar for a Screwdriver!:bigrin:

Coughs with a :bigrin: Skater Boy.... Well screw me!

When i read this i got lost... Who am i meant to be the scrwee, but the scrwer gets the fun too...

Cough Skater Boy, so your a bottom then eh???

:bigrin:;)

Skater Boy

Nov 21, 2007, 5:53 PM

Cough Skater Boy, so your a bottom then eh???

I like to think of myself as fairly sexually "fluid" and versatile. I could do top OR bottom, depending on the circumstances and people involved. But I'm not so rigidly masculine that I'd be too scared to be a "screwee" from time to time, if thats what you're implying.

Although in my opinion, both the "screwer" AND the "screwee" potentially gain pleasure from the experience, so as long as thats the case, the politics probably don't even matter so much.

Oh, and you really should get some Strepsils for that cough of yours! ;) :bigrin:

diB4u

Nov 21, 2007, 6:01 PM

I like to think of myself as fairly sexually "fluid" and versatile. I could do top OR bottom, depending on the circumstances and people involved. But I'm not so rigidly masculine that I'd be too scared to be a "screwee" from time to time, if thats what you're implying.

Although in my opinion, both the "screwer" AND the "screwee" potentially gain pleasure from the experience, so as long as thats the case, the politics probably don't even matter so much.

Oh, and you really should get some Strepsils for that cough of yours! ;) :bigrin:

Skater boy, cough, cough, cough... Strepsils are the only thing that's been down my mouth for ages lol... :bigrin::cool:

You are totally correct in your assumptions, for each person can gain pleasure and share experiences. I am also fluid in thought and in action.

:female::bigrin:;):female::bigrin::male:

darkeyes

Nov 21, 2007, 6:06 PM

Tedium2007

Nov 21, 2007, 6:10 PM

I like to think of myself as fairly sexually "fluid" and versatile. I could do top OR bottom, depending on the circumstances and people involved. But I'm not so rigidly masculine that I'd be too scared to be a "screwee" from time to time, if thats what you're implying.

Although in my opinion, both the "screwer" AND the "screwee" potentially gain pleasure from the experience, so as long as thats the case, the politics probably don't even matter so much.

Oh, and you really should get some Strepsils for that cough of yours! ;) :bigrin:

do you find that in (gay/bi/straight)society you are treated with less respect because of your "sexual fluidity"?

do you think this is beacause it is assumed that you are a screwer?

do you think that flaming gay men have it harder or easier or about the same as you do?

sorry for all the questions, i'll shut up now..

Tedium2007

Nov 21, 2007, 6:24 PM

Fun lil thing.. me screwee an me screwer... think ther a lil bit of it in all of us..sum r mainly screwer..sum much more screwee..no 1 is in middle... we r all throughout our lives at once 1 otha an both... don matta if yas a guy or a gal..in 1 way or tother yas screwee or screwer... but thats life.. in simple matta like sex same applies...screwer an screwee...me prefers 2 b screwee an am ratha gud at it..but also like 2 b screwer cos its parta the whole an 2 b truly gud at 1 ya havta b bloody gud at otha.. screwer an screwee both hav value.. wivout 1 the otha is pointless an the act of sex becums meaningless an excrutiatingly dull.. in life me both at same time.. 1 balances out otha an we achieve sum kinda peace within ourselves..within sex ther is no need for this balancin act tho sumtimes it can b quite useful..try 2 bein screwee at same time..it don work..try 2 bein screwer at same time..it don work..but 2 tryin try 2 b both screwee an screwer then jeez..wotta time ya dus hav...

Clear as mud?? Mayb..but sort it out in ya mind an its worth the effort!

took me a lil' while to work out what you are saying, but thats ok, i like it it's different.

do you think that most people automatically see you as straight?

or do they see you as a sort of pseudo male, because of your perceived lesbian characteristics?

do you think that socially you are treated differently than a straight woman?

do you think that men tend to ignore you because you are (to them) not screwable or do you think that you confuse them because you aren't screwable to them?

(see, i can't keep my big mouth shut!)

Skater Boy

Nov 21, 2007, 6:41 PM

1.do you find that in (gay/bi/straight)society you are treated with less respect because of your "sexual fluidity"?

2.do you think this is beacause it is assumed that you are a screwer?

3.do you think that flaming gay men have it harder or easier or about the same as you do?

4.sorry for all the questions, i'll shut up now..

1. The simple answer is yes. We live in a patriarchal, heterosexual-dominated, male-dominated society. So anyone who doesn't conform to those ideals is bound to come across a bit of friction at some point in their life. personally, I found that some straight men are more tolerant of homosexual and bisexual "screwers" than "screwees", perhaps becuase they feel able to relate to them more easily than what they might consider a "male bitch". But thats just my experience. and society's attitudes are ever-changing... so there is hope for accpetance, and many people already do accept "male screwees" as a normal part of life.

2. yes, partly- its our society's sterotypical role for men. Its been normalized, so thats what most people expect of you. Certainly the vast majority of my male and female friends expected me (at least initially) to conform to society's ideals of masculinity. That said, efeminate men have existed for centuries (I'm guessing), so one would think that we would be more accepting of them. BUT I feel I should distinguish between purely homosexual men and bisexual men. because from what I understand, the purely homosexual efeminate men tend to adopt ONE role (usually "screwee") and stick to it. But thats not always the case with bisexuals, and when you introduce heterosexual sex to the equation, society starts to think slightly differently, IMO.

3. "flaming gay men"? (was that a Freudian slip?). No, I don't think that they have it *much* easier than bisexuals. But like I said... when you introduce heterosexual sex to the equation, some people start to question whether... hmm... your status in the... hmm... "female-courting environment" is hmm... "worthy" perhaps? (not sure I worded that last sentence succintly enough). And then we have society's ideals for parenthood and role-modelling concerning these issues. but to be fair, homosexuals may face that obstacle too. so, I would say, that we are in a similar boat to the purely homosexual men... perhaps a bit better or a bit worse, depending on who you ask.

4. no problem... thats what this forum is for. and tbh its a little dead here atm. But remember that the above is just my 2 cents, and is certainly not substantial enough to use in a sociology dissertation.

@DiB4U: you ARE cheeky, aren't you?!

@Fran: IMO it IS possible for a single individual to switch between BOTH "screwer" AND "screwee". Perhaps not at the exact same time (for some). But I think you'll find that there are some guys (and probably gals) who can do it. It reminds me of the yin-yang symbol...:yinyang: balance between the opposing polarities... fluidity, etc.

Anyway... thats my rant done for today!

Tedium2007

Nov 21, 2007, 7:03 PM

4. no problem... thats what this forum is for. and tbh its a little dead here atm. But remember that the above is just my 2 cents, and is certainly not substantial enough to use in a sociology dissertation.

no dissertation at present, just incurable curiousity about people. if i get too nosey, just tell me to mind my own business!

ty for your answers.

Skater Boy

Nov 21, 2007, 7:10 PM

Btw, now that I think of it, I can also remember hostility from some straight men more towards "screwers" than "screwees". Perhaps the reason being that they felt sexually threatened by another man who who potentially "screws men"? Or maybe they just prefer homosexuality to be in a submissive rather than aggressive form? I dunno... I'm speculating. But yeah, I guess both "screwers" AND "screwees" get a bit of schtick from certain people.

HTH.

darkeyes

Nov 21, 2007, 7:15 PM

took me a lil' while to work out what you are saying, but thats ok, i like it it's different.

do you think that most people automatically see you as straight?

or do they see you as a sort of pseudo male, because of your perceived lesbian characteristics?

do you think that socially you are treated differently than a straight woman?

do you think that men tend to ignore you because you are (to them) not screwable or do you think that you confuse them because you aren't screwable to them?

(see, i can't keep my big mouth shut!)
Didn expect cumbak of q&a sesh but ok..lil bitta fun..don mind a giggle...

Walkin down street, or on 1st meetin at face value me str8..acts str8..looks it..an likes it that way..am wot me am..jus a lil girl who likes 2 look wot she is...so me dresses accordingly an likes it...

Socially wiv str8 peeps sumtimes am, sumtimes not...depends on the company an circumstances...depends wetha they kno me not str8 or not. Sum don care an jus treat me as ther m8 or an aquaintance jus like ne otha..sum r edgy an not quite sure how 2 deal wiv me.. sum r scared of me..guys as well as gals..spesh str8 gals. Guys me quite happy 2 keep scared of me me adds ere... saves a lotta hassle...but sum guys gotta try ther luk.. an then they gets the treatment..

Don think ne 1 c's me as pseudo male..cos me neitha looks or acts like 1... hav confidence in meself, an belief, but thats a human thing not male or female..am quite dominant an not scareda 2 much an prepared 2 say me peace..don think for all wot peeps say thats a male thing eitha particularly...mite b wot lotsa guys think it shud b..but don accept that... an me lesbian tendencies aint percieved... they r real... an peeps know that. Don hammer on bout it quite same way as for instance me dus in .com chat..but chat a bitta fun... but peeps know...an if they don me soon makes em aware if they push ther luk...

Sum men do iggie me.. wudn say cos me not available 2 em...more cos they r a bit afraid of me an dunno how 2 deal wiv me.. sumtimes cos they h8 me an the evil thing me is...a dyke... sum try it on..knowin me has a partner me adores an fact that that partner is female erself, an that me is a les, an sum jus havta push it 2 show world how macho they r an get in me knickers 2 prove they the real man me been lookin for... me plays long wiv the worst of em sumtimes..an then laffs in ther face an gives out a very cuttin an deflatin comment jus wen they think theyve cracked me... arrogant arseholes! Mostly me jus politely declines ther advances an smiles nicely at em... even if me don wanna shag em me still vain enuff 2 have an ego wich likes 2 know its still in demand.. even if its by the lesser mortal... but mos guys me knows..an r m8s jus treat me as Fran an treat me wiv the same respect an affection me has for them...even 1's me not close 2 act reasonably respectfully an as they treat me..me treats them bak....

Dus hav a bit of a rep as a manhater in ere..but am not..neva hav been... likes most of the daft buggers..a lot.. several of the bastards me luffs dearly...but don stand for ther crap..an don xpect them 2 stand for mine eitha... thats not jus friendship wich me likes 2 think we hav..its human..an how we shud b...

Owt me missed out??:tong:

Tedium2007

Nov 21, 2007, 7:22 PM

Didn expect cumbak of q&a sesh but ok..lil bitta fun..don mind a giggle...

Walkin down street, or on 1st meetin at face value me str8..acts str8..looks it..an likes it that way..am wot me am..jus a lil girl who likes 2 look wot she is...so me dresses accordingly an likes it...

Socially wiv str8 peeps sumtimes am, sumtimes not...depends on the company an circumstances...depends wetha they kno me not str8 or not. Sum don care an jus treat me as ther m8 or an aquaintance jus like ne otha..sum r edgy an not quite sure how 2 deal wiv me.. sum r scared of me..guys as well as gals..spesh str8 gals. Guys me quite happy 2 keep scared of me me adds ere... saves a lotta hassle...but sum guys gotta try ther luk.. an then they gets the treatment..

Don think ne 1 c's me as pseudo male..cos me neitha looks or acts like 1... hav confidence in meself, an belief, but thats a human thing not male or female..am quite dominant an not scareda 2 much an prepared 2 say me peace..don think for all wot peeps say thats a male thing eitha particularly...mite b wot lotsa guys think it shud b..but don accept that... an me lesbian tendencies aint percieved... they r real... an peeps know that. Don hammer on bout it quite same way as for instance me dus in .com chat..but chat a bitta fun... but peeps know...an if they don me soon makes em aware if they push ther luk...

Sum men do iggie me.. wudn say cos me not available 2 em...more cos they r a bit afraid of me an dunno how 2 deal wiv me... sum try it on..knowin me has a partner me adores an fact that that partner is female erself, an that me is a les, an sum jus havta push it 2 show world how macho they r an get in me knickers 2 prove they the real man me been lookin for... me plays long wiv the worst of em sumtimes..an then laffs in ther face an gives out a very cuttin an deflatin comment jus wen they think theyve cracked me... arrogant arseholes! Mostly me jus politely declines ther advances an smiles nicely at em... even if me don wanna shag em me still vain enuff 2 have an ego wich likes 2 know its still in demand.. even if its by the lesser mortal... but mos guys me knows..an r m8s jus treat me as Fran an treat me wiv the same respect an affection me has for them...even 1's me not close 2 act reasonably respectfully an as they treat me..me treats them bak....

Dus hav a bit of a rep as a manhater in ere..but am not..neva hav been... likes most of the daft buggers..a lot.. several of the bastards me luffs dearly...but don stand for ther crap..an don xpect them 2 stand for mine eitha... thats not jus friendship wich me likes 2 think we hav..its human..an how we shud b...

Owt me missed out??:tong:

ty very much for the time and thought that went into this post. you have given more than i expected you would.

your pardon please, for my incurable curiousity.

DiamondDog

Nov 21, 2007, 7:30 PM

Those are too many "rules" or expectations, that I don't follow or care about what society thinks about me.

The idea that the person who gets penetrated is somehow "feminine" is outdated, pointless, and not everyone that's bi/gay/non het even does penetrative sex, anal sex, or is even wired for receptive anal sex. There are even heterosexuals don't do any of these things/sex acts either.

Nobody actually cares about the heteronormative patriarchy and it's laughable and too PC.

I'm not saying that misogynistic viewpoints are a good thing but when people ramble on about the heteronormative patriarchy, people just ignore it and chalk it up to a laughable and silly philosophy and being too PC.

Tedium2007

Nov 21, 2007, 7:36 PM

Those are too many "rules" or expectations, that I don't follow or care about what society thinks about me.

The idea that the person who gets penetrated is somehow "feminine" is outdated, pointless, and not everyone that's bi/gay/non het even does penetrative sex, anal sex, or is even wired for receptive anal sex. There are even heterosexuals don't do it either.

Nobody actually cares about the heteronormative patriarchy and it's laughable and too PC.

do you currently live outside of mainsteam society?

do you consider yourself top or bottom or neither?

do you feel that you are missing anything by not being a part of (or being apart from ) straight society?

ty for your input , i appreciate it.

DiamondDog

Nov 21, 2007, 8:02 PM

do you currently live outside of mainsteam society?

do you consider yourself top or bottom or neither?

do you feel that you are missing anything by not being a part of (or being apart from ) straight society?

ty for your input , i appreciate it.

I ignore heterosexual society and while the majority of people are heterosexual I just don't subscribe to their viewpoints/philosophies.

I live in a hetero "world" but I can't stand the idea of living in a "gay" world 24/7 either, (even my close friends who are mostly bi/homosexual men can't either), and I don't get heterophobic and flip out about things or blame heterosexuals for everything that's wrong with us queer/GLBT people.

I don't want to live in a gay ghetto and I view the idea of being "gay" (many people view the label of "gay" as being predominantly white, middle class/upper middle class, not so revolutionary, a political label, and I'd have to agree with them) or needing to live in a gay ghetto as being one that's fabricated and driven by consumerism.

Now I'm not saying that people can't be homosexual but the idea that there's actually a gay "culture" or a gay "community" is one that's just a social construct that's driven by consumerism, and there's not really a gay "culture" or a gay "community" at all. The concept of gay males has been so largely commercialized. There's a whole industry far beyond just the slick porn, of slick mags & media. It's a fabrication.

I view top and bottom as terms primarily used for BDSM and even then I'd be a switch.

I don't call myself a top/bottom/versatile guy for non BDSM sex because those are labels that are used for anal intercourse and I don't engage in it.

I've tried penetrative anal sex and I don't like it. I'm not wired for it and it's not pleasureable and I get a lot more pleasure with external stimulation of the genitals and prostate than internal stimulation.

If a man wants to explore intense, profound sexuality without necessarily the major drama of emotional & ego-games, men can share toe-curling erotic intensity without the insertive sex, even oral sex, with other men.

Even with women I'm more into oral sex and while I haven't had sex with a woman for awhile, I don't NEED to do penetrative oral, vaginal, or anal sex with a woman everytime we have sex.

It's like that with men too.

Would I fuck a boyfriend with my penis and toys, or even my hand if he wanted it? Yes I would. But I wouldn't need to do it all the time or even want to do this all the time and I'd only want to do it to give him pleasure and because he wants it.

jem_is_bi

Nov 22, 2007, 12:34 AM

I definitely believe this screwer/screwee scenario is in harmony with the general view of heterosexual society of the roles of men and women. However, the roles real people actually adopt are not always so easy to put in stereotypical classifications.

Am I a screwer or screwee?
I tend to take charge in sexual activities with either men or women and seem to always attain the top position and determine the general scenario of activities. With women, I like vaginal sex, so that makes me the screwer.
But, with men, I am exuberantly aggressive in obtaining oral sex with me as the screwee (love to suck) for an hour and often more before I decide it is time to push him over the limits of pleasure into orgasmic ecstasy, with me on top. (Assertive screwee?)
However, I very much like/need oral sex performed on me by my male partner, again with me on top.

JEM

kitten

Nov 22, 2007, 12:53 AM

I don't follow any rules except those with my partner and what we want. I am both and it depends on my mood.
Balance is the key.

Tedium2007

Nov 22, 2007, 1:32 AM

I ignore heterosexual society and while the majority of people are heterosexual I just don't subscribe to their viewpoints/philosophies.

I live in a hetero "world" but I can't stand the idea of living in a "gay" world 24/7 either, (even my close friends who are mostly bi/homosexual men can't either), and I don't get heterophobic and flip out about things or blame heterosexuals for everything that's wrong with us queer/GLBT people.

I don't want to live in a gay ghetto and I view the idea of being "gay" (many people view the label of "gay" as being predominantly white, middle class/upper middle class, not so revolutionary, a political label, and I'd have to agree with them) or needing to live in a gay ghetto as being one that's fabricated and driven by consumerism.

Now I'm not saying that people can't be homosexual but the idea that there's actually a gay "culture" or a gay "community" is one that's just a social construct that's driven by consumerism, and there's not really a gay "culture" or a gay "community" at all. The concept of gay males has been so largely commercialized. There's a whole industry far beyond just the slick porn, of slick mags & media. It's a fabrication.

I view top and bottom as terms primarily used for BDSM and even then I'd be a switch.

I don't call myself a top/bottom/versatile guy for non BDSM sex because those are labels that are used for anal intercourse and I don't engage in it.

I've tried penetrative anal sex and I don't like it. I'm not wired for it and it's not pleasureable and I get a lot more pleasure with external stimulation of the genitals and prostate than internal stimulation.

If a man wants to explore intense, profound sexuality without necessarily the major drama of emotional & ego-games, men can share toe-curling erotic intensity without the insertive sex, even oral sex, with other men.

Even with women I'm more into oral sex and while I haven't had sex with a woman for awhile, I don't NEED to do penetrative oral, vaginal, or anal sex with a woman everytime we have sex.

It's like that with men too.

Would I fuck a boyfriend with my penis and toys, or even my hand if he wanted it? Yes I would. But I wouldn't need to do it all the time or even want to do this all the time and I'd only want to do it to give him pleasure and because he wants it.

ty for your reply.

may i ask what it is that you do for a living? If you would rather not say that is ok as well, as I have said, it is just my curiousity run amok.

Tedium2007

Nov 22, 2007, 1:42 AM

I don't follow any rules except those with my partner and what we want. I am both and it depends on my mood.
Balance is the key.

i agree that any real relationship has its own rules, and that what you may want will depend on your mood.

are both you and your partner bi?

do you find that he is more subject to prejudice than you?

do you think that straight society is more afraid of you or your husband?

again, if any or all of hese quetions are too nosey, please feel free to say so I mean no fense with any of them.

i am a big girl and i promise not to get my feelings hurt.

Cesca

Nov 22, 2007, 6:06 AM

I enjoy most things and am quite versatile sexually. I enjoy being controlled and controlling what is happening although I am much better at the former. Also I love the freedom when we just see what happens.

I do think men get intimidated especially by intelligent strong women, although I have yet to find myself able to do that. No man or any male for that matter, not even when at school, has ever been intimidated by me, but I am quite intelligent and hope not weak. Actually I am a little afraid of men especially those who have an overbearing personality, and those I tend to shy away from. Sexually I am very submissive to men. This was especially so with one older man who wished to set me up as his 'mistress' (a very quaint expression and concept in this day and age). My submissiveness to men does not entirely extend to my personal everyday life for I refused his offer because what he and I wanted were not the same. I still have that little fear of them but we always have to combat our fears or we wither away and become mice.

With women its different and I am much more versatile and confident with them. A year or so ago this wasnt the case. I wasnt afraid of them but was very naive and lack the confidence moving away from home has given me. Ive even lost some of my fear of men but not all.

In general I do believe men think they should rule the world and in the terms of the question that they should be the screwer. Whether they are screwing or being screwed sexually, they like to think thay are controlling the sex. By lying back doing nothing and enjoying what we do them to they often are.

diB4u

Nov 22, 2007, 2:51 PM

Tedium2007

Nov 22, 2007, 3:06 PM

@DiB4U: you ARE cheeky, aren't you?!

Yeah i am.. LOL dont ya know that about me by now Skater Boy? A girl can try.

You know the screwer and the screwee has never applied to me before.

Thats probably why i fail in many aspects including sex. I have male and female characteristics, so this subject is slightly blurly for me.

well ok, but do you think it applies in general? what about any other observations?

do you think that being outside the normal paradigm has led you to any conclusion that are different from what is above.

are there any questions you would like to ask any one else here?

diB4u

Nov 22, 2007, 3:36 PM

well ok, but do you think it applies in general? what about any other observations?

do you think that being outside the normal paradigm has led you to any conclusion that are different from what is above.

are there any questions you would like to ask any one else here?

Well there are issues that I need to adresse, one of them, is that i just dont understand the art of sex. I mean the roles a person plays. Once I had great sex, that was just a fluke I'm sure because I was in love... (although he wasn't in love with me I learned) the other times sex has been welll just ok.

So why is it that instead of sex being fun, why do i see it as something bigger ?

I guess half of my trouble is that sex in the past has always been rubbish, and nothing that is tender.... Or it could be that its blurred, that I can not seperate the gender issues of sex.

darkeyes

Nov 22, 2007, 6:35 PM

Since me saw this lil thread summat been naggin at me bout it rite from start..jus cudn put me fingie on it.. so me joined in spirit of the riginal post...bout 5 mins ago wos so obvious jus dunno how me cudda been so stupid....

Ther jus 1 rule 2 screwin.. an it aint ne windbaggin bout screwer or screwee...or owt else.. its simple...

RULES OF SCREWING

1. The Screwer and Screwee shall enjoy their endeavours

Aint necessary 2 b gud at it..tho that certainly helps achieve the aim of the rule more easily.. jus 2 relax, enjoy it an get as much fun an pleasure asya can outa it... sumtimes ya won enjoy it..but each an every effort, gud, bad or indifferent shud b made by strivin toward the ultimate satisfaction of havin achieved the aim of the rule... an in the end havin jus givin yasel anya partner(s) a rite gud ole time!

niftyshellshock

Nov 22, 2007, 6:41 PM

saw this on th' internet the yesterday(11/20/07). do you think it is true or false? why?

i think it's true based in part on my personal experience.

men seem to think that the run the show, and are tin gods because they get to be the screwers.

it really frightens some men that they are screwable. in my opinion they then feel it is alright to treat those people who are screwable(or like to be screwed) as less worthy of respect. i think this leads them to treating women, and bottoms as though they are common facilities for their enjoyment.

this is my humble opinion, please let me hear what you think.

thanks in advance

I think I'm screwable. I've never been afraid to ackwnowledge someone else's 'superiority', but at the same time, I like being the one in control.
I could do both, I reckon.

Tedium2007

Nov 23, 2007, 1:30 AM

darkeyes

Nov 23, 2007, 9:36 AM

fun thing legal aga consent...wot is it??? diff thing the world ova....:tong:

Tedium2007

Nov 23, 2007, 10:03 AM

fun thing legal aga consent...wot is it??? diff thing the world ova....:tong:

true, but still... maybe i should have said adult/resposible? someone who is able to think for themselves and understands the consequences of their actions?

but not everyone who is "adult" is able to meet those criterion...

able to fully consent to sex?

any suggestions?

slocum5

Nov 23, 2007, 1:34 PM

Don't like the word "screwed" when used in a sexual context. Both "screwed" and "fucked" carry too much negative baggage. e.g. "That bastard fucked me over. He screwed me out of a thousand bucks." In the plural it's not too bad. e.g. "We fucked the night away," or "My gal and I love to screw." Those expressions degrade neither participant who engaged in the delightful enterprise.

Not2str8

Nov 23, 2007, 2:42 PM

Jesus, if I had to devote this much energy and thought to having sex, I'd give it up and take up the study of navel lint. Whatever happened to "If it feels good do it, and if it DOESN'T make you feel good, DON'T do it".? Maybe we'd have alot more fun if we didn't analyze everything to death.

Skater Boy

Nov 23, 2007, 6:34 PM

A girl can try.

Try, and you might. Don't, and you won't. ;)

diB4u

Nov 23, 2007, 7:40 PM

Try, and you might. Don't, and you won't. ;)

Well Ok ya pulled... ;) Get ya coat, I'll get my whips.... LOL...

Sex alone is overestimated, sex and love is a cherrished thing... Love without sex makes Ann Summers a very rich organisation...:eek:

darkeyes

Nov 24, 2007, 6:55 AM

Well Ok ya pulled... ;) Get ya coat, I'll get my whips.... LOL...

Sex alone is overestimated, sex and love is a cherrished thing... Love without sex makes Ann Summers a very rich organisation...:eek:

yeaaaaa Skater an diB hav clicked!!!!! enjoy....:tong:

diB4u

Nov 24, 2007, 9:10 PM

yeaaaaa Skater an diB hav clicked!!!!! enjoy....:tong:

Dark... Behave!! lol... Awww Skater boy, wouldn't be able to last.. but im sure that he'd give me a good try first lol...

Sorry Skater Boy.... I couldn't help myself... :tong:;):female::bigrin::male:

darkeyes

Nov 25, 2007, 4:22 AM

Me knows e wudn last! they neva dus!

Skater Boy

Nov 25, 2007, 10:38 AM

Me knows e wudn last! they neva dus!

Yes, as darkeyes says, us "lesser mortals" are woefully inadequate when it comes to all things sexual. Maybe you should heed her words of wisdom and convert to Lesbianism, DiB4u? From what I've heard, Darkeyes is a bit of a peach... so if you can compete with CuddlyKate, you might even be in for some good lovin' with said Scottish lass! :tong: :cool:

diB4u

Nov 25, 2007, 11:25 AM

Yes, as darkeyes says, us "lesser mortals" are woefully inadequate when it comes to all things sexual. Maybe you should heed her words of wisdom and convert to Lesbianism, DiB4u? From what I've heard, Darkeyes is a bit of a peach... so if you can compete with CuddlyKate, you might even be in for some good lovin' with said Scottish lass! :tong: :cool:

LOL no thats ok... I like cock far too much... on bi men, on straight men on gay men...

Swoon, ok if I promise not to break you Skater boy... I'll play gently... ;)

Cherokee_Mountaincat

Nov 25, 2007, 12:45 PM

lol Screw it. Lets go play. Who's on top this time? (Grins)
Cat

Skater Boy

Nov 25, 2007, 1:16 PM

Swoon, ok if I promise not to break you Skater boy... I'll play gently... ;)

Hrmm... now where have I heard THAT before?! :rolleyes: :bigrin:

darkeyes

Nov 25, 2007, 1:29 PM

Not from me Skater ne way...me likes it wild an ruff!!!:bigrin:

GreenEyedLady(GEL)

Nov 25, 2007, 1:51 PM

Wild maybe , rough ? I know you say that but your so tiny and frangle like Fran, you'd break ! Nope , I could never give it to ya rough , just torment you with softness and sensual loving. :bigrin:

P.S Love you CuddlyKate heheheehehehe

Skater Boy

Nov 25, 2007, 1:56 PM

...me likes it wild an ruff!!!:bigrin:

Don't they all, Fran, don't they all.

[And whats all this about 'er being tiny and "frangle-like"?!]

GreenEyedLady(GEL)

Nov 25, 2007, 1:59 PM

I for one am not into rough sex, but than again I rather make love than have sex .

diB4u

Nov 25, 2007, 3:04 PM

Hrmm... now where have I heard THAT before?! :rolleyes: :bigrin:

Ok i will compromise, you can bite me, I'll be gentle with your man bits...

:cool: Come on skatter boy you know that you want it....

I too gel prefer to make love than to have sex.

Skater Boy

Nov 25, 2007, 4:08 PM

Ok i will compromise, you can bite me, I'll be gentle with your man bits...

Oh really? Well, everyone likes women who know how to compromise! :tong: Can I pull your hair too? :bigrin:

Come on skater boy you know that you want it....

Tee-hee... what a classic line! Have you got any more golden oldies that you wanna use on me... coz I got a feelin' that you're only just gettin' warmed up... :cool:

darkeyes

Nov 25, 2007, 4:19 PM

I for one am not into rough sex, but than again I rather make love than have sex .

Lotsa diff waysa havin sex.. lotsa diff waysa makin luff..sum rufff..sum wild..sum smooth an gentle...suma mixture.. me likes em all... tee hee:bigrin:

diB4u

Nov 25, 2007, 5:16 PM

Oh really? Well, everyone likes women who know how to compromise! :tong: Can I pull your hair too? :bigrin:

Tee-hee... what a classic line! Have you got any more golden oldies that you wanna use on me... coz I got a feelin' that you're only just gettin' warmed up... :cool:

Cough..... Skater boy i have many many lines in me, some i never use in real life, others I over use lol...

Hair pulling, yeah you can but becareful I have a bald spot LOL..

Skater Boy

Nov 25, 2007, 6:16 PM

Cough..... Skater boy i have many many lines in me, some i never use in real life, others I over use lol...

Hair pulling, yeah you can but becareful I have a bald spot LOL..

Haha, jeez, enough already with the coughing... I'm beginning to think you've got laryngitis or something!

You may need to work on your approach a little. But I forgive you, since you agreed to let me pull your hair. Can I call you naughty names and smack your bum too? (come on... you know you want it! :bigrin:)

Lotsa diff waysa havin sex.. lotsa diff waysa makin luff..sum rufff..sum wild..sum smooth an gentle...suma mixture.. me likes em all... tee hee:bigrin:

Wahey! sounds like Fran would've been fun to know back in the days when she accommodated lesser mortals! :tong: