bi by night....

[mrplayfuluk]

in my time of slowly moving from being bicurious to bisexual in terms of identity at least, I come across many guys (there maybe girls too but I haven't connect with them yet), who seem to be online after 11pm chatting to other guys, getting off on gay porn, or cybering their asses off. Some of these guys are doing it secret from their wives and girlfriends attempting to satisfy their urges and come to terms with their new found sexuality. For some its a curse for others a forbidden fruit. Its likely there are women who do it too. So I want to know if you are part of this MASSIVE population of nocturnal bi people that go unnoticed by the world at large and do you think it helps you move forward or stay still in your journey to fulfill your desires.....
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[the mage]

You are one of the millions doing it. A huge percentage all internet traffic is still sex, and yes, most are in hiding. The ones not hiding are out meeting real people in the evenings.

[Skater Boy]

The ones not hiding are out meeting real people in the evenings.

That's the way to go, IMO. Reality, whether we like it or not, is what is real. People are free to live in another world if they want, but...

:2cents:

[mrplayfuluk]

You are one of the millions doing it. A huge percentage all internet traffic is still sex, and yes, most are in hiding. The ones not hiding are out meeting real people in the evenings.

Excuse me but who the hell are you!

I never denied that I use the internet for my sexual curiosity as well a myriad of useful and work reasons but sadder people like you are the type of "been there done it" characters who offend many people personally.. yet you also spending your time commenting on forums just like everyone else.
I've read your pompous postings on other topics. Go flame someone else's forum topic but leave this to those who are still trying figure out who they are or have you forgotten where you came from....

I personally have a social life and meet plenty of real people and have friends who are gay, bi and str8 so who are you to judge.. me or anybody else. Everyone has their own cross to bear and issues to deal with.

In any case you didn't read the question... you are obviously too perfect and free thinking to have a reasonable opinion on this topic..... yet don't even dare to put your face pic up.

[TaylorMade]

You are one of the millions doing it. A huge percentage all internet traffic is still sex, and yes, most are in hiding. The ones not hiding are out meeting real people in the evenings.


Or they are too broke for the gas/club charges/ drinks

Or they live in a city with a slim-to-none bisexual scene

Or they have tried the scene and didn't like it

There are many reasons besides "hiding" as to why one stays in. It should do you well for you to remember this.

*Taylor*

[Skater Boy]

Or they are too broke for the gas/club charges/ drinks

Or they live in a city with a slim-to-none bisexual scene

Or they have tried the scene and didn't like it

There are many reasons besides "hiding" as to why one stays in. It should do you well for you to remember this.

*Taylor*

Yeah, "hiding" is not the right word, Mage. I'm sure there ARE some that are hiding. But for many of us, the internet is a means to access a community that we might have trouble accessing by ordinary means.

That said, its still important to recognize the difference between internet life and real life. Cybersex (not that I've ever done it) is probably quite different to the real thing.

[DiamondDog]

Excuse me but who the hell are you!

I never denied that I use the internet for my sexual curiosity as well a myriad of useful and work reasons but sadder people like you are the type of "been there done it" characters who offend many people personally.. yet you also spending your time commenting on forums just like everyone else.
I've read your pompous postings on other topics. Go flame someone else's forum topic but leave this to those who are still trying figure out who they are or have you forgotten where you came from....

I personally have a social life and meet plenty of real people and have friends who are gay, bi and str8 so who are you to judge.. me or anybody else. Everyone has their own cross to bear and issues to deal with.

In any case you didn't read the question... you are obviously too perfect and free thinking to have a reasonable opinion on this topic..... yet don't even dare to put your face pic up.

He's a troll, who constantly flames people and makes an ass out of himself and you. 'nuff said.

[mrplayfuluk]

Hey Diamond Dog, I appreciate your support here. I have read your own skirmishes with him and I have seen his type before; they are usually hypocrites. I may not agree with everything you say DD and accept we have very different tastes but I would fight for your right to write your views (which I enjoy) which is the ethic of this site rather than negative reactionary commentary which borders on personal.. So lets get back to the topic at hand eh so he doesn't win..

[jeancarleo]

I'm bi all day. I'm out to my family here, some accept me and some don't but it's my life.

I was married living with my wife when I was 23 and she was 20 and I reached a point where I told her about me and she was cool with it but it was because she loved me so much and I couldn't love her the same way and wasn't happy with her since she would get so jealous when I would talk to my gay or bi friends. I never cheated on her because I know she would have been heartbroken so we just separated. Now we're good friends.

I believe bisexual life is much harder than gay or str8 life but everyone is different so we do things our way and build our own paths in life.

Satying up late on the internet talking to people of the same sex for sexual curiosity has been happening since internet was created. Just as gay bars and clubs were used to meet others =)

[mrplayfuluk]

I'm bi all day. I'm out to my family here, some accept me and some don't but it's my life.

I was married living with my wife when I was 23 and she was 20 and I reached a point where I told her about me and she was cool with it but it was because she loved me so much and I couldn't love her the same way and wasn't happy with her since she would get so jealous when I would talk to my gay or bi friends. I never cheated on her because I know she would have been heartbroken so we just separated. Now we're good friends.

I believe bisexual life is much harder than gay or str8 life but everyone is different so we do things our way and build our own paths in life.

Satying up late on the internet talking to people of the same sex for sexual curiosity has been happening since internet was created. Just as gay bars and clubs were used to meet others =)

thank you jeancarleo that was the kind of answer I was looking for, other people's experiences are so valuable...

[jeancarleo]

You're welcome;)

I started feeling attracted to cartoon characters when I was 4. When I was 7 I played with my 15yr old cousin just touching nothing more. At 13 a 28yr old did orals ex to me for one week and i loved it, he was a family friend. I became homophobic because I family found out and made fun so I rejected a 16yr old when I was 16 in high school. He was also bi. When I started using internet at age 18 I then did went on for hours at night finding out whi I was bisexual and why i can't be gay or str8. Happily accepted myself at that point and came out to my family at age 23 after I separated from my wife.

[mrplayfuluk]

You're welcome;)

I started feeling attracted to cartoon characters when I was 4. When I was 7 I played with my 15yr old cousin just touching nothing more. At 13 a 28yr old did orals ex to me for one week and i loved it, he was a family friend. I became homophobic because I family found out and made fun so I rejected a 16yr old when I was 16 in high school. He was also bi. When I started using internet at age 18 I then did went on for hours at night finding out whi I was bisexual and why i can't be gay or str8. Happily accepted myself at that point and came out to my family at age 23 after I separated from my wife.

thanks again dare I say... keep it real, because we all have to... everyday.

[Doggie_Wood]

I am selectivey 'out' - meaning to my online family here, a very select few friends in my life but not to my imediate family or co-workers. As far as my co-workers go, our relationship is based on business and very seldom do we congregate together outside of work.

I don't really do the bar scene since I don't do alcohol. I have plenty of other things in my personal life to tend to which includes riding my motorcycle, preping one of my houses for the market, organizing product to sell on E-Bay and so on. I do seem to have this fixation on wearing out those motorcycle tires.

I do occationaly make journeys to meet up with other distant friends and enjoy their company, be it physical or not. As a matter of fact, I am making one of those journeys this month.

So I spend some time on line here, especialy in the evenings, after work, on the week end and whatever days I choose. But the main concideration here is that it is my choice to make.

:doggie:

[hellooutthere]

You have obviously touched on a hot topic. Whether you're bi, straight or gay, many people are using the internet, sometimes just to get off, other times to explore.

As a bisexual male, I used to spend lots of time on the internet trying to get in touch with others. At times, I found it as a tool to get my rocks off, and at other times, I found myself curious about this bisexual culture.

I am constantly asking myself why I am bisexual. I know there are many guys that are probably just curious and they fantasize with other guys cybering, but there are real bisexuals out there and they have good stories to tell.

I just spoke with one member here today and he feels that he should probably be a woman. I have had thoughts like that to. So it was very useful trying to understand what he was going through to help me understand. He has a bi wife who understands his femininity and would support him if he decides to take female hormones and get breast implants.

I don't know if this helps with your comments, but even if we are there just to get off, I believe underneath it, we are exploring to answer some questions.

[OcalaCouple683]

We are on line mostly searching because we have kds and can't go out so easily to meet other people....even if we do go out- its hard to find bisexual couples here.

[kitten]

Mostly bi by night because that is the only time I have to myself after a day at work, an evening of all the usual stuff, the kids are in bed and the chores all done.
Hubby travels most of the time so we meet online or by phone to talk about each day and share.
He knows I am bi and supports me belonging to this online community. There is a live local group - but it meets at times when I cannot go. Family first and then I get to have "me" time. As the children come of age and I become independent again - I may get to join a real world group that is not related to PTA, the neighborhood assn or the local booster club for my kids activities.
In the meantime, cyber activity is my lifeline to my bisexual self and it has helped me through many a question or crisis about what I am feeling and who I am in total.

Thanks for a good thread.
Hugs,

[proseros]

I think perhaps the stigmatic difficulties in actually living pansexually are related twofold, one to inner acceptance and two to our approaching the very crushingly obscure sociological dynamics of intimate engagements-As I have very recently discovered for myself, it seems at least [and I am commenting on behalf of bi men]that there is first the hurdle of struggling with a peculiar emotional and psychological ambiguity about ourselves as men in a world for one, that only agrees with one position; the particular ground we are standing being dogmatically, a debaucherous aberration to any normal manifestation of what is otherwise 'right', and therefore no less henious than the other position which is already tolerably condemnable, bi-iseuxality somewhere inclusive of all grey areas of deviation that cannot even stand to do the "wrong thing" right.

You are either 'gay' and the world will tolerate you (even though a miserable sinner who is condemned to hellfire)- or you are straight. But if you are bi-sexual you are lower than the adulterer as well as the sodomite. You cannot possibly be of any human worth since your attitude and perspective (as far as the outer world is concerned) does ot only invite debauchery, but harbors a hedonism that accepts any manner of conceivable evil, including rape, beastiality, sadism, masochism, pedophelia, necrophelia and even murder and cannibalism as a medium of some insatiately disturbed psyche.

There is even too the dual standard that more readily accepts and even beloves intimate congress between women as some phenomonal natural expression consitent with the larger and impercptible complementary energies of creation- oh, the 'yin' of it all. There is little issue with purely biological application of the femenine element. Between mudfights and "theatric" androgynies played by men, masculinity (yang) is only passively recognized as an otherwise indecently mutable thing that is not otherwise to change.

Theatric androgeny (transvestisim) then merely a farsical mockery of a "proper" appeal and adornment.

It is not time that it be understood whether- and again I refer particularly to male -bisexuality has to do with every other 'deviate' variable of sexual expression alleviating the assumption that if so you'll 'fuck' just about anything or anyone (including the two year old and the dog).

But then, these the exploits of heterosxual men oftimes than anyone else.

While not a comment on the natural androgyny of the human male sex disposed by form and adaptation, man is still sexually adaptive, mutable and purely androgynous (if only he would dare to know it! And even women for other kinds of notion are averse-"If like men 'too' you cannot genuinely want anything with me! Ewwww.)

Then it appears that the only real distinction between heterosexuality and homosexuality to be made, is the matter of interest-if we did not know that all along; except in our case not compelled to surrender anything for the cause, we are adapting a medium for the sake of fulfilling mutual sentiment more than satisfying libidinous impulses.

To the question of the approach then, "bi night" is an immersion into the the murky pond of assorted sexual noxia with effort of possibly making an inclusive
correction, from the 'right' quarter. But you cannot approach bisexuality from a hetero starting point without passing through homosexuality, and this where the difficulty lies, that is, perhaps it is a wrong approach.

Whereas the status quo does not typically allow room for correction, the 'minority' does. Then it might be easier to approach a masculine 'gay' relationship that is open to inclusion of the hetero element, than introduce an obscurity to the status quo. the dilemma of interest is social more than sexual since consisting of all the same objective anyway-It has not historically proven completely evident that one need be interested in a thing to enjoy it.

[ambi53mm]

So I want to know if you are part of this MASSIVE population of nocturnal bi people that go unnoticed by the world at large and do you think it helps you move forward or stay still in your journey to fulfill your desires.....
:flag4:

I would have to include myself as a NBP (Nocturnal Bi Person) My bi experiences predate the internet and were really just a matter of coincidence being in the right place at the right time. I'm probably a novice when it comes to the internet and didn't start tapping into it's power until around '96.
Yes I’ve spent many a night exploring after the kids were asleep and I finally had time for myself undistracted. The internet offered a safe medium to explore and become aroused with the possibilities it offered. It also offered many opportunities to meet other people and helped create at least some sort of social life. I met my wife on aol and we’ve been together for about 11 years. Since neither of us drink we don’t frequent bars so the odds of bumping into one another would have been slim to none.
It has moved me forward into understanding my bisexuality. The last two years of reading and contributing to these forums have probably been the most beneficial for personally understanding a part of myself that I’ve spent most of my life in denial over.
We haven’t met anyone as a result of this particular site but we have met other bi-couples through other sites that we belong to. Moving from the abstract into the actual experience has all resulted from the internet.
There is a sense of freedom that comes with being out. We are out to a very select few that are similar to ourselves in that they are out “Online” but remain under the radar otherwise.
Nocturnal Yes…I have more energy than I can handle at 3am than I do at 3pm, and I seem to be dealing with insomnia. I think I’m just nocturnal by nature and I’ve been this way for as long as I can remember.

Ambi:)

[dafydd]

in my time of slowly moving from being bicurious to bisexual in terms of identity at least, I come across many guys (there maybe girls too but I haven't connect with them yet), who seem to be online after 11pm chatting to other guys, getting off on gay porn, or cybering their asses off. Some of these guys are doing it secret from their wives and girlfriends attempting to satisfy their urges and come to terms with their new found sexuality. For some its a curse for others a forbidden fruit. Its likely there are women who do it too. So I want to know if you are part of this MASSIVE population of nocturnal bi people that go unnoticed by the world at large and do you think it helps you move forward or stay still in your journey to fulfill your desires.....
:flag4:

Hmm I've come to the conlcusion that my bisexuality might be a bit of a fetish and whilst I am almot exclusively with men, I do sometimes go online in the evening to look at straight porn. Thank god for xtube.com.

d

[12voltman59]

in my time of slowly moving from being bicurious to bisexual in terms of identity at least, I come across many guys (there maybe girls too but I haven't connect with them yet), who seem to be online after 11pm chatting to other guys, getting off on gay porn, or cybering their asses off. Some of these guys are doing it secret from their wives and girlfriends attempting to satisfy their urges and come to terms with their new found sexuality. For some its a curse for others a forbidden fruit. Its likely there are women who do it too. So I want to know if you are part of this MASSIVE population of nocturnal bi people that go unnoticed by the world at large and do you think it helps you move forward or stay still in your journey to fulfill your desires.....
:flag4:

From what I understand about the Internet---there are large numbers of people who spend a great deal of time doing things on the net--not just trying to find sex---a few months back I saw this report about people who spend most of their free time doing role playing games, or at MySpace or FaceBook or doing those simulated worlds like Second Life---the people they had interviewed for that particular story spend their time doing some sort of role playing games and they weren't geeky losers---they had some very accomplished, well put together people--mostly all were ranged in age from late teens through mid30s--but they were all hooked on whatever they liked---spending time looking for sex either real or virtual is as someone mentioned--not a new story on the net....
I do wish we would get over this flaming crap we have going on here at our site---it does get a bit old and tiring!!

[FriedDuck]

Hmm I've come to the conlcusion that my bisexuality might be a bit of a fetish and whilst I am almot exclusively with men, I do sometimes go online in the evening to look at straight porn. Thank god for xtube.com.

d

oh god.

U R a closet case about being bisexual and obsessed wit labels, u still want to hang onto the idea that you r gay/homosexual and not bisexual.

wht else is new?

[Feast]

Yeah !!!
I'm totally a nocturnal bi !!! Unless I get the chance during the day !!
But normally it is at night that I go online and offline to meet men.
Then again the same is true for girls......
Oh I'm so confused....

[Papelucho]

I am selectively out. Once I figure out how to be totally out, I'll do it, but I'm not comfortable enough yet.
Although I told my parents a few months ago, the conversation did not continue, so there is still work to do there.
Being Bi is hard because you can slip into the straight world and still get by, without really living a total lie.

Recently I started spending time every day on the internet on bisexual websites (during the afternoon;) )to be more involved with my own sexuality. Yesterday I found out that someone else gets extremely attracted to girls shortly after following up on attraction towards guys...which is like me. That blew me away.

[someotherguy]

The first thing that came to mind was nocturnal (nighttime) bisexuality as opposed to diurnal (daytime). I supposed biurnal would be both day and night, but, it turns out not to be a word; its closest neighbor is binaural. That only means having two ears. Maybe it works out with ears used for handles around the clock. Try to keep up.

Now, as for the idea of people online looking at porn, using one another for pornication, and being in stealth mode by day, um, yeah, well, nothing new about that here. The internet is just the latest version of the red light district. Night has been traditionally best for doing things one does not want to be seen, due to the characteristic lack of sunlight, sunlight being a great aid in the process of vision that without which concealment and subterfuge are better enabled.

[the mage]

Excuse me but who the hell are you!

I never denied that I use the internet for my sexual curiosity as well a myriad of useful and work reasons but sadder people like you are the type of "been there done it" characters who offend many people personally.. yet you also spending your time commenting on forums just like everyone else.
I've read your pompous postings on other topics. Go flame someone else's forum topic but leave this to those who are still trying figure out who they are or have you forgotten where you came from....

I personally have a social life and meet plenty of real people and have friends who are gay, bi and str8 so who are you to judge.. me or anybody else. Everyone has their own cross to bear and issues to deal with.

In any case you didn't read the question... you are obviously too perfect and free thinking to have a reasonable opinion on this topic..... yet don't even dare to put your face pic up.

WELL WELL WELL Aren,t you the defensive little fuck wit.
I did indeed read your post and you did not read mine ya tool. You jump on board assuming I'm talking about YOU. Just like the zirconium puppy you ignore the words actually typed as well as REALITY. What a tool and a fool YOU are. MOST internet traffic is sex. MOST people who are doing it are hiding from spouses. NOT ALL.. I DID NOT SAY ALL I guess cause you're one of the "most" you're defensive..

Want to se a pic?? Send an e mail and ask for it. Want to meet me? come to a party or munch in Toronto sometime..

[jem_is_bi]

I love how venemous I am in this post!

I like how you talked dirty in a different post.

[matterinhand]

Its 11am and I'm on here...lol
Seriously, I'm bi, my wife knows, accepts, and likes it, we've had mmf threesomes, and I'm hoping we'll have more.
But out here in the real world I don't shout out that I'm bisexual because its not got anything to do with the vast majority of people I know.
I go online early mornings before work, and when my wife is at work, because I want to talk to my friends without her going "Whats he saying?"
And she hates the cam, even if we're in seperate rooms she'll ask if its on before she comes into where I am.
So yes, I'm one of the millions, but also one of the small percentage where the wife knows it.

[diB4u]

in my time of slowly moving from being bicurious to bisexual in terms of identity at least, I come across many guys (there maybe girls too but I haven't connect with them yet), who seem to be online after 11pm chatting to other guys, getting off on gay porn, or cybering their asses off. Some of these guys are doing it secret from their wives and girlfriends attempting to satisfy their urges and come to terms with their new found sexuality. For some its a curse for others a forbidden fruit. Its likely there are women who do it too. So I want to know if you are part of this MASSIVE population of nocturnal bi people that go unnoticed by the world at large and do you think it helps you move forward or stay still in your journey to fulfill your desires.....
:flag4:

The forbidden fruit, as you call it, I did start my notcuturnal lusts at night.... The idea of men satisfying each other, of women peforming acts either in a bisexual way or a lesbian fashion.... had caused me to use the net at night, as a way of seeing the other side of sexuality.


Now however, I freely admit to watching gay porn... I neither tell the listener (or friend) if its male porn of female porn.... It is of little concern to them...IF they ask I do tell..

What im trying to say, and possibly failing is that at least in Britain sexuality regardless of bisexual, homosexual or pansexual... Sex is sweeped under the carpet... Maybe it has something to do with the british way etc...

The only way some people can easily and without harrasment, enjoy sexual contacts is via the internet.

I myself have said only to a few that my passions lay in the human spirit, that I am me, neither gay, straight or bi...

My personal journey of one, did start in very identical fashion, I used to look at porn pictures, travel to the websites, feel my desires met there.. the odd occassion I had participated in webcam sex, but thats very very rare ( but with a partner at the time)

Now however I have left that forgotten seedier, nocturnal acts... Its about time that I moved into the daytime...

My sexuality is apart of who I am... I'm just more accepting of myself, and by being more accepting of myself, others in time will also accept me for being pansexual.


I'm coming to believe that if everyone was bisexual, then there indeed would be more people in same gender relationships, or people having more than one partner.

I've been to a gay pub once or twice, but I dont hook up with men or women.. I hope that in time, I actuarly do meet people who would like to spend some time with me either in a sexual way or in a deep and longing relationships..

[Papelucho]

My sexuality is apart of who I am... I'm just more accepting of myself, and by being more accepting of myself, others in time will also accept me for being pansexual.



What does pansexual mean?

[someotherguy]

Pansexual means you get bad reviews.

[diB4u]

What does pansexual mean?

Well it means that I'm attracted to people regardless of their genders. That i like people.

If you want a defining answer then go look it up.

[diB4u]

Pansexual means you get bad reviews.

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[Bi Nudist Male]

Great interesting topic. I'd like to weigh in by noting that there was a song from the Broadway show Avenue Q called, "The Internet is for Porn" and I guess I agree. Most of us would never buy the damn thing if not to get our rocks off.

That said, I've been exploring my sexuality, and while I've found some wonderful friends and partners online, there ARE a lot of "explorers" out there (I'll be diplomatic) and I only wish they'd be honest about it. Whether it's a natural stage in their coming out, or just idle curiosity, or even "slumming" by homophobes is a case-by-case question.

Nevertheless, as one who's becoming more and more comfortable with my sexuality after more than 50 years, I only wish they'd tell us they're just fucking around instead of leading us on.