What is "average"

[bicplinFL]

OK, we have had enough lies BS and crap, so we shall throw this one out there.

What is average. We are ....he 6'1 and 195, she is 5'8 and 145. I dont think we are average, I think we are over weight. Not by much, but we are.

I am getting effing fed up looking at peoples profiles and she/he is listed as "average" and she /he is a flippin porker!

Why do people lie and then put that lie out there for all to see.

5 ft 4 and 180lbs is not "average", your FAT!

I await the flack. Who are you too.....blah blah blah, etc etc. We are all made diff, blah blah blah..you obviously have a problem, blah blah blah. ALL DIVERSIONARY. Face up to the truth. Stop being so effin PC people.

[diB4u]

LOL- true.

But then what is average- if your in a room full of large people then the average isnt it the bbw and the bhm's.

If your in a room full of dwarfs per say, then that is the average.


However i do agree with your statements.

I personally put that im a bbw on my profile- if its not there at the moment then my bad.

[GreenEyedLady(GEL)]

Your body types in your profile contradicts this thread, might want to think about fixing it.

Yours truly,
PP aka pleasantly plump

[grayhound]

Your body types in your profile contradicts this thread, might want to think about fixing it.

Yours truly,
PP aka pleasantly plump

excuse me .... that should be pleasingly, not pleasantly ....

[12voltman59]

OK, we have had enough lies BS and crap, so we shall throw this one out there.

What is average. We are ....he 6'1 and 195, she is 5'8 and 145. I dont think we are average, I think we are over weight. Not by much, but we are.

I am getting effing fed up looking at peoples profiles and she/he is listed as "average" and she /he is a flippin porker!

Why do people lie and then put that lie out there for all to see.

5 ft 4 and 180lbs is not "average", your FAT!

I await the flack. Who are you too.....blah blah blah, etc etc. We are all made diff, blah blah blah..you obviously have a problem, blah blah blah. ALL DIVERSIONARY. Face up to the truth. Stop being so effin PC people.

I hope that you guys are not all hung up on people's physical appearance---to be honest---when I first talk to them--I would rather not know if they are skinny as a rail or big around as an oak tree---I don't want to cloud my perceptions of people's physical appearance with what really matters--the quality of their mind, spirit, disposition, etc.

I would much rather be with a nice and pleasant "fat" person than a neurotic, nasty, self-centered, narcissitic, perfect human physical specimen any day of the week, month or year!!

As far as myself--I am by all rights "fat" by your definition--and I used to put that my size was "above avearage" until I meet a few people on here who asked me--"why did you put above average on your profile? you are just fine.." and that came from at least one person who was very thin---so based on their suggestions--I changed my profile and put that I am "regular."

Man---this place used to be so nice a place to be--but lately---I just don't know anymore---it seems that all of the crap and craziness of the 'real world" has made its way into this site far too much....

I do wish that people could just chill out and get along----and not be so damn critical of every nit picking thing!!!

The fact of life is this--we get older, we get fatter, our private partz don't work as well as they used to, boobs sag and all of that--we are human beings--we are not yet borg-like beings "seeking perfection" even though it does seem that far too many people do want some type of perfect physical being---me--I would forgo physical perfection to get what really matters--nice, caring, loving people---not walking stick people that are only good for showing off some crazy assed designer's "haute coiture."

[azirish]

I totally agree with you're reply!! Being "overweight" etc. doesn't make you "unattractive" anymore than being "fit" makes you automatically attractive. Individals are individals, no height/weight chart will tell you if someone is "attractive" in general terms. I've know very attractive "overweight" people and very unattractive "fit" people.



I hope that you guys are not all hung up on people's physical appearance---to be honest---when I first talk to them--I would rather not know if they are skinny as a rail or big around as an oak tree---I don't want to cloud my perceptions of people's physical appearance with what really matters--the quality of their mind, spirit, disposition, etc.

I would much rather be with a nice and pleasant "fat" person than a neurotic, nasty, self-centered, narcissitic, perfect human physical specimen any day of the week, month or year!!

As far as myself--I am by all rights "fat" by your definition--and I used to put that my size was "above avearage" until I meet a few people on here who asked me--"why did you put above average on your profile? you are just fine.." and that came from at least one person who was very thin---so based on their suggestions--I changed my profile and put that I am "regular."

Man---this place used to be so nice a place to be--but lately---I just don't know anymore---it seems that all of the crap and craziness of the 'real world" has made its way into this site far too much....

I do wish that people could just chill out and get along----and not be so damn critical of every nit picking thing!!!

The fact of life is this--we get older, we get fatter, our private partz don't work as well as they used to, boobs sag and all of that--we are human beings--we are not yet borg-like beings "seeking perfection" even though it does seem that far too many people do want some type of perfect physical being---me--I would forgo physical perfection to get what really matters--nice, caring, loving people---not walking stick people that are only good for showing off some crazy assed designer's "haute coiture."

[<<GOD>>]

Average in what way?? Weight and height maybe if using your very obviously limited perspective of the white american male and female. Just like some ignorant redneck cracker to measure himself in relation those of his kind and ignore the rest of the humanity. Thanks for your permission to dispense with the PC moron. It feels great call an asshole an asshole for once. Asshole

<<God>>

[DiamondDog]

From another thread on size:

You do realize that 'average' [cock size] is somewhere around 5 3/4 ", right?

[curiousguy_2002]

I agree with ya bicpl.
I think that the only reason anyone is going to get offended is because they are self conscious and know that they dont meet the definition of average. Americans as a whole are obese. So I suppose they are now qualifying that as the average. I tend to disagree with that. (Then again I watch everything I eat and am at the gym everyday.) I dont judge a persons character by their body size at all. But I have never eyed someone and said.. will you look at the morals on that girl.
Not to say I won’t date someone who has more of them to love. I just prefer to know what to expect if the date is going to be blind. It removes the awkward expectations.

[FalconAngel]

Well, I've looked at your profile and, if those pics are reasonably accurate and up to date pics of yourselves, then you are not at all fat. You are average body types.

I've gained some weight over the past couple of years. I went from 165 to 178 (I'm 5'6") and I consider myself to be a little overweight at this time, but not unattractive. Same with my wife. She's gained a few pounds but is still attractive.

If you consider that to be "fat", then the problem is not everyone else, it is your perception of "fat". Perhaps you should consider treatment for the beginning stages of anorexia or modify your definition of the word "fat".

[jem_is_bi]

Average in what way?? Weight and height maybe if using your very obviously limited perspective of the white american male and female. Just like some ignorant redneck cracker to measure himself in relation those of his kind and ignore the rest of the humanity. Thanks for your permission to dispense with the PC moron. It feels great call an asshole an asshole for once. Asshole

<<God>>

"GOD!! What an asshole!!

On the other hand in a previous post:
"I would much rather be with a nice and pleasant "fat" person than a neurotic, nasty, self-centered, narcissitic, perfect human physical specimen any day of the week, month or year!!"

I definitely agree with that!!

[<<GOD>>]

"GOD!! What an asshole!!

On the other hand in a previous post:
"I would much rather be with a nice and pleasant "fat" person than a neurotic, nasty, self-centered, narcissitic, perfect human physical specimen any day of the week, month or year!!"

I definitely agree with that!!

Awww C'mon Jem and don't be such a pussy. Have you not considered all the feelings that have been hurt by such an assinine thread? Someone has to stand up for their right to be human even if they don't meet Mr. Perfections expectations. Sometimes you have to call it for what it is. I Know you have a heart. Don't be afraid to show it once in a while. If not for yourself then for those he has hurt by his lack of caring and compassion. Call me an asshole if you like. I can handle attacks against myself..but it rips my heart and soul to see others abused in such a manner.

You're friend
<<God>>

[Long Duck Dong]

lol yeah I can understand what the original poster is saying...

people present themselves according to how they percieve themselves, and its not always true to form

I had a friend that presented herself as slim / average... and I would always laugh at that statement.......in dating sites, guys would mail her...based on her facial pics....then run when they saw a fuller sized person......

one day a bloke didn't run.... but mailed her after recieving her pic...... and offering to help, using photoshop...when she asked why......he mailed back that she may call herself a slim / average lady.....but it would take photoshop to hide the fact that she was in fact a BBW.....in 110 cm jeans

she got the hint..... changed her profile.... and is currently married and just given birth to a bouncing baby girl

while people may think that others want to see slim / average..... its actually a case of people wanna see open / honest.....

whats better, being slim / average / dishonest and dateless.....or BBW / honest/ married.....

but sadly we live in a world where being BBW / BBM is frowned upon and they are shown as lazy, obese, pigs that live to eat.......and that slim / average people have good eating habits, perfect smiles and bodies that only take a 10 minute workout 3 times a week and their prefect abs and butt are yours for only 4 payments of $39.95

actually the truth is genetics play a huge part in your abs and ass....and while gaining and losing weight can be a ongoing beattle for some...... its genetics that dictates if you are a muffin in jeans or a super model in a g string.......
regardless of how many payments of $39.95 you make

so people, be honest.... be loved.....if ya not average, then don't be....its like trying to shove a size 18 butt into a size 12 g string......you may think it looks good and you appear better to me, but actually I am rushing to the toilet to puke....then I am leaving until you work out that the sight of your pretense is nauseating but the dishonesty is totally repulsive and revolting....

[ghytifrdnr]

When every day the talking heads in the MSM are telling us that MOST Americans are overweight to obese, then fat IS average!

[alaskacouple]

Well, if you really want to know the answer to what is "average", all you need to do is obtain a copy of the height/frame/weight charts that all doctors use to make the determination. I don't think you can hope to really answer the question here in an opinion poll.

I really like what "12Volt" said about NOT even wanting to know about physical features when meeting someone online for the first time. But, instead trying to get to know the real person that dwells inside. (Another benefit of internet connections IMO. Because how often do we make judgments about someone we see in person and then not even give ourselves a chance to get to know them?)

All that said, we are over-weight as a society in general - and that is unhealthy in both a physical and emotional way.

[ambi53mm]

I do wish that people could just chill out and get along----and not be so damn critical of every nit picking thing!!!

The fact of life is this--we get older, we get fatter, our private partz don't work as well as they used to, boobs sag and all of that--we are human beings--we are not yet borg-like beings "seeking perfection" even though it does seem that far too many people do want some type of perfect physical being---me--I would forgo physical perfection to get what really matters--nice, caring, loving people---not walking stick people that are only good for showing off some crazy assed designer's "haute coiture."

Couldn't have said it any better myself!

Ambi:)

[ambi53mm]

Average in what way?? Weight and height maybe if using your very obviously limited perspective of the white american male and female. Just like some ignorant redneck cracker to measure himself in relation those of his kind and ignore the rest of the humanity. Thanks for your permission to dispense with the PC moron. It feels great call an asshole an asshole for once. Asshole

<<God>>

LOL Amen??

Ambi:)

[Doggie_Wood]

The only way to quantify this issue is for the choices one has for "body type" to be expanded to include the following:

Skinny as a Rail
Very Slim and Sleak
Slimmer than average
Average
A few extra pounds
Larger than Average
I'm a Big One

just my :2cents: and a laugh

:doggie:

[the mage]

People, people.,,,,, such intensity here...
.goes to show its a sensitive topic.

Ok, reality check, America is fat. Obese in fact, in HUGE numbers.. so by definition overweight is average. Not your fault folks its a cultural norm.

But, the bigger issue is indeed, to get to know a person first and if the minds connect, the imperfections WE ALL HAVE become nothing. Expectations built on written descriptions will always let you down. You must remember we were meant IN A NATURAL STATE to meet FACE TO FACE in the world.
The scent of another human is one of the biggest unconscious receptors we have. You will not know you like a person and want to intimate with them till you touch and smell them

The other issue though is health....Fat is looked upon as unhealthy, which by nature makes that person less appealing. It is now known though, that being over weight, (not obese) is not damaging IF you maintain good exercise regimen....Be Well.. folks..

[MarieDelta]

Mean or Average is defined as the sum of all the given elements divided by the total number of elements.

It doesnt mean over or underweight or even "just right", it means average.

If everyone in your family weighs over 200lbs and you weigh 175, then you are below average. No matter what your height/weight proportions.

If most of the people in your city weigh in excess of 250 Lbs and you weigh in at 225 then you are probably average (or a little below.)

[Delilah]

OMG :eek:
I'm super fat!! 5'4" / and 150 lbs... I'm a whopper!! :eek:
I better stick my finger down my throat more often and go down to... um...
What is the average weight for 5'4"? :tongue:

[MarieDelta]

You mean what is the average weight for a 5'4" transwoman in Fla? I'd guess ataround 150 lbs :bigrin:

[diB4u]

Hmm, at the end of the day does it matter?

We are all different and thats that. We all like different things in each other- including ourselves.

So why are we beating each other up just because we dont agree on a persons size.


Sheesh....

The thing that i dont agree on is if a person bullies or victimises a person because of the way they look etc.


PMSL@Doggie- I am the Big one....

A helpful hint- for people who are only interested in skinny women or men fair enough- each to their own.

For people who like their partners/mates/lovers/bedfolk/etc with a more "meat" on them fair enough...

Get my point. Yes as a big woman obesity and the courses of it- be it emmotional, physical or any other reason- needs to be treated and not shunned by society.

For the record- I know pleanty of slimmer people who just think that they're "normal" that they can eat extremly un heathly. That Mcdonalds et al is made for them.

Sheesh, everyone has a different factory setting- take a chill pill and relax fellow human beings that might/do/can identify/or with/ as bisexuals.

I would offer everyone some hagan das? ice cream but im sure people would flame me or moan lol.

Sorry what was that? Pass the ketchup... What with icecream???

To each their own...:2cents:

[BronzeBobby]

I agree with diB4u. I think the confusion began with the first post in this thread, because bicplinFL used two concepts interchangeably -- "larger than average" versus "overweight" -- when they are as different as apples & oranges.

You can be "overweight" and be average or even smaller than average. That's because every person's ideal body weight is different, and the "healthy" weight for a muscular bodybuilder is not necessarily the healthy weight for a sedentary chain-smoker. A 17-year-old might weigh 195 lbs at 6'1" and be overweight for his age, while a 37-year-old weighing 205 at the same weight might be right on target. Moreover, people might be trim and muscular but have high cholesterol, and slim folks might actually be dying of cancer.

"Average" is a whole other issue, because that refers not to your ideal body weight, but rather, how you compare to the rest of society. But even that can't really be figured out according to your weight. I have a 32 waist at the age of 37, so I would consider myself "smaller than average" even though I weigh over 190 lbs.

I think the original post reflected the person's frustration with Internet liars, and that's understandable. It's wrong to lie about your weight or put old, outdated pictures of yourself up. We all get annoyed when we meet people who have misrepresented themselves. If they lie about their weight, what else will they lie about? But I don't think the issue of Internet liars is really a question of describing ourselves as "average" or "larger than average" on a profile. It's more a question of how recent our pictures were taken, and how truthfully we describe ourselves once someone contacts us through the site.

My advice to bicplinFL is just to ask a lot of questions before you meet people offline. Be specific if it's important to you: What is your waistline? How often do you exercise? What do you bench press? When was this photo taken? Do you have any more recent photos that show your whole body?


Hmm, at the end of the day does it matter?

We are all different and thats that. We all like different things in each other- including ourselves.

So why are we beating each other up just because we dont agree on a persons size.


Sheesh....

The thing that i dont agree on is if a person bullies or victimises a person because of the way they look etc.


PMSL@Doggie- I am the Big one....

A helpful hint- for people who are only interested in skinny women or men fair enough- each to their own.

For people who like their partners/mates/lovers/bedfolk/etc with a more "meat" on them fair enough...

Get my point. Yes as a big woman obesity and the courses of it- be it emmotional, physical or any other reason- needs to be treated and not shunned by society.

For the record- I know pleanty of slimmer people who just think that they're "normal" that they can eat extremly un heathly. That Mcdonalds et al is made for them.

Sheesh, everyone has a different factory setting- take a chill pill and relax fellow human beings that might/do/can identify/or with/ as bisexuals.

I would offer everyone some hagan das? ice cream but im sure people would flame me or moan lol.

Sorry what was that? Pass the ketchup... What with icecream???

To each their own...:2cents:

[bicplinFL]

Well thankyou for all the diverse answers and opinions you have written.

Some were quite good and stuck to the theme of what we wrote, some just went off at a tangent and were quite stupid really.

Notice I never wrote anything about initials, or whether a person was or wasnt attractive.

Perhaps some people should read the thread before they get all excited and write!

Take 5 mins to look at a few profiles and see what some people have written. Are they writing about themselves or.........a fantasy figure.?

[Bluebiyou]

Well, biclpinFL,
some of it is relative and some in perspective.
I was married to an aneorexic girl. She weighed a whopping 130 lbs at our marriage... at 6'1". She thought she 'could lose a few pounds' but was barely okay with 130. We worked out at the YMCA and during our marriage she got up to the scale tottering weight of 145. Rather impressive muscularity and definition; still too scrawny to be anything close to a female body builder.
I've always been lean also.
Now, in my later 40s, my belly is doing things I never thought I'd see it do. I'd put myself at 'larger than average' but then I have to wonder... 'what is "average"?'
I can relate to finding obesity a turn off.
Yet... something about walking a mile in someone's shoes... makes me think more than twice.
But you are at your own point in life. Your feelings are quite valid.
Good luck and best wishes!
Blue

[bicplinFL]

Well thankyou for all the diverse answers and opinions you have written.

Some were quite good and stuck to the theme of what we wrote, some just went off at a tangent and were quite stupid really.

Several attacked me, mmm, perhaps its a diversion tactic, but I can take it.
I also read some garbage about what is average? "If i was in a room with 3 people that were over 200 lbs then what is average etc etc" c'mon guys, thats also crap.

If you are 20+ and 5 ft tall, your a short arse, not, "vertically challenged", if you are bald, you are not "folicaly challenged", your bald. So why the hang up with being fat?

Notice I never wrote anything about initials, or whether a person was or wasnt attractive.

Perhaps some people should read the thread before they get all excited and write!

Take 5 mins to look at a few profiles and see what some people have written and compare that with the pix they have uploaded. Are they writing about themselves or.........a fantasy figure.? I also note that quite a lot of people that responded to this thread didnt have any pix, interesting huh!

Why is everyone so PC these days. Does it really help when you lie to people because you are afraid you may hurt their feelings.... Is that what we have become, liars and cheats? Cheating ourselves with dilusional lies?

So please dont attack me, look at yourselves...........Oh and the "I feel sorry for you" stuff is again diversionary and really patronising crap too. No I dont have a problem/agenda/am sad/my dick dropped off etc etc etc

[<<GOD>>]

Well thankyou for all the diverse answers and opinions you have written.

Some were quite good and stuck to the theme of what we wrote, some just went off at a tangent and were quite stupid really.

Notice I never wrote anything about initials, or whether a person was or wasnt attractive.

Perhaps some people should read the thread before they get all excited and write!

Take 5 mins to look at a few profiles and see what some people have written. Are they writing about themselves or.........a fantasy figure.?

You are really quite laughable as you now try to give your posting some sort of value. Are we to suppose your choice of the word "Porker" was of the farmyard variety? What a crock of crap! This was nothing more than a cheap, pathetic ploy to get people to look at your profile, one ot the oldest tricks in marketing. What pisses me off is that you used other people's weaknesses and areas of vunerability to promote yourself, as you now try to pretend that there was some real intrinsic value to this thread. Perhaps some people should think about the harm they inflict before they post.Gee what a concept for an "educated man."

your friend
<<God>>

[diB4u]

I also note that quite a lot of people that responded to this thread didnt have any pix, interesting huh!


So please dont attack me, look at yourselves...........Oh and the "I feel sorry for you" stuff is again diversionary and really patronising crap too. No I dont have a problem/agenda/am sad/my dick dropped off etc etc etc


Hmm well i checked out your profile, and whilst your cock is on display for everyone to see why do you cover your face???

:2cents:

Many things can be said about me, at least a person can see who they're talking to. But each to their own.

[bicplinFL]

[QUOTE=diB4u;99096]Hmm well i checked out your profile, and whilst your cock is on display for everyone to see why do you cover your face???

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Diversion.........

The first one to attack......is that the best you can do. Come on, get real diB4u.

[vittoria]

You are really quite laughable as you now try to give your posting some sort of value. Are we to suppose your choice of the word "Porker" was of the farmyard variety? What a crock of crap! This was nothing more than a cheap, pathetic ploy to get people to look at your profile, one ot the oldest tricks in marketing. What pisses me off is that you used other people's weaknesses and areas of vunerability to promote yourself, as you now try to pretend that there was some real intrinsic value to this thread. Perhaps some people should think about the harm they inflict before they post.Gee what a concept for an "educated man."

your friend
<<God>>

go get 'em G!!

:cool:

[diB4u]

[QUOTE=diB4u;99096]Hmm well i checked out your profile, and whilst your cock is on display for everyone to see why do you cover your face???

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Diversion.........

The first one to attack......is that the best you can do. Come on, get real diB4u.



Hmm attacking? Me? No, just wanting to know why you have covered yourface up is all....

Sorry I dont do attacks thats not in my nature.

Oh but I am real... Sorry its only because you said that most of the attackers dont have any picture on their profiles....

I'm innocent of all crimes, I just curious is all.

[BronzeBobby]

I also have a pic in my profile but had something to say in response.... So I think BiCplinFL's point about the lack of pix among his detractors is exaggerated.


[QUOTE=bicplinFL;99099]



Hmm attacking? Me? No, just wanting to know why you have covered yourface up is all....

Sorry I dont do attacks thats not in my nature.

Oh but I am real... Sorry its only because you said that most of the attackers dont have any picture on their profiles....

I'm innocent of all crimes, I just curious is all.

[Delilah]

I would offer everyone some hagan das? ice cream but im sure people would flame me or moan lol.



May I have two scoops of mint chocolate pleeeease?
Would it have more calories if I rub it on a man and lick it up? :bigrin:

[diB4u]

May I have two scoops of mint chocolate pleeeease?
Would it have more calories if I rub it on a man and lick it up? :bigrin:

No it should be less cause daymme them blowjobs can be hmm mouthwatering :yikes2:

[bicplinFL]

ermmmmmmmm "GOD", every forum you write in is shite of the highest degree.

I couldnt give a crap about you or if you "think" I wrote my piece was to get people to look at my profile, which is a load of Bollocks.

Its ALL about fat people trying to either fool themselves or lie.

Nothing to do whether you have your face or arse covered.

So get off your sanctomonious horse, either answer the question or fuck of basicially.

That should stir it up a bit!

[DiamondDog]

People using fake/outdated pics of themselves and lying about their body type, is not cool in my book.

In the words of one profile that I've seen: "May God help you if you don't look anything like your personal pics when we meet!"

I'm OK with men being muscular/bigger/beefy/a bit overweight with a gut; but I'm not into fat/bigger/BBW/obese women at all, and I'm not into obesity in either gender.

I also don't mind if a guy is thin/athletic like I am. I prefer women to be thin/athletic like me.

I have homosexual male friends who totally fetishize thinner men like myself and that is their type.

[qchamp]

I keep seeing the term " overweight ". Exactly whos weight are they over. They cannot possibly be over their own weight, it is impossible. You cannot weigh more or less than you do at that very moment.

If you are referring to that farse of a chart that says what someone " should " weigh, then I say BULLSHIT. Some skinny-mini wrote that chart. Just because he/she thinks people should be something doesnt make it law or whatever.

As for what people say they are. Well if thats how they see themself, then so be it. What should I care what someone looks like.

For me. Im 5'9" 242 lbs. I have a gut but other than that I wear it well ( so im told ). But am I average? Only in cock size!:tong::eek::tong:

Tim

[Delilah]

I understand (I hope lol) what the poster is trying to say. Be honest about yourself and don't make yourself what you are not.

I had some incident when someone completely lied about themselves in their profile.
He stated his age, height, and weight with deception. He wasn't 35, he is 70ish, he isn't 6'1" tall, he was I'm assuming about my height or lower (I was on 4 1/2" high heels when I met him and looking down at him), and he isn't 190 lbs like he said he was... 90 lbs I think. His photos wasn't of him it was his son at the age of 35. I don't get what he was thinking. I was so upset that I walked away. :(

[bicplinFL]

Diamond Dog..........Thankyou

[alaskacouple]

I keep seeing the term " overweight ". Exactly whos weight are they over. They cannot possibly be over their own weight, it is impossible. You cannot weigh more or less than you do at that very moment.

If you are referring to that farse of a chart that says what someone " should " weigh, then I say BULLSHIT. Some skinny-mini wrote that chart. Just because he/she thinks people should be something doesnt make it law or whatever.

As for what people say they are. Well if thats how they see themself, then so be it. What should I care what someone looks like.

For me. Im 5'9" 242 lbs. I have a gut but other than that I wear it well ( so im told ). But am I average? Only in cock size!:tong::eek::tong:

Tim

Tim,

The chart you refer to is not BS, it is based on medical research and data. I don't mean to sound 'preachy' and I'll probably get my hand bit here; But, you are a young man and if you don't wake up and smell the coffee, you are going to impact your long term health. You are in denial of the fact that you are in fact over a safe and healthy weight. It is much like people who still think that it's all a bunch of BS that cigarettes cause early death.

To put 'average' and 'normal' into some perspective, give some thought as to how our ancestors ate (and how many still eat in other places of the world). Now consider how and what we eat here. Consider if you would be able to work hard in the woods all day with the weight you are carrying. Take an honest look at your photo in your profile - you are carrying more than a little extra man gut.

And please don't take this in a way unintended - it's not about how the extra weight changes who you are on the inside - it's all about the fact that the extra weight is going to rob you of some of your life. It's about the 'head in the sand' attitude to the extra weight - the denial that it is a real problem that causes me to write this.

[qchamp]

I do understand what it means. I lost over 60 lbs and I NEVER hurt so much. I felt better when I was 300 lbs. Is it healthier, well nobody really knows for sure. Not all people are the same when it comes to " average ". Average in my family is being around 275 lbs 5'9"-6'. So by that standard, im below average.

Besides doesnt it make us who we are to not be just a cookie cutter person. I dont want to be that skinny. Not many people mess with me because of my size. I like that, keeps me out of trouble.

I honestly just say, be yourself, dont worry about what some " average guy " says you should be. Its all kinda shallow to me to worry about the normal person.

Tim

[Long Duck Dong]

Tim,

The chart you refer to is not BS, it is based on medical research and data. I don't mean to sound 'preachy' and I'll probably get my hand bit here; But, you are a young man and if you don't wake up and smell the coffee, you are going to impact your long term health. You are in denial of the fact that you are in fact over a safe and healthy weight. It is much like people who still think that it's all a bunch of BS that cigarettes cause early death.

To put 'average' and 'normal' into some perspective, give some thought as to how our ancestors ate (and how many still eat in other places of the world). Now consider how and what we eat here. Consider if you would be able to work hard in the woods all day with the weight you are carrying. Take an honest look at your photo in your profile - you are carrying more than a little extra man gut.

And please don't take this in a way unintended - it's not about how the extra weight changes who you are on the inside - it's all about the fact that the extra weight is going to rob you of some of your life. It's about the 'head in the sand' attitude to the extra weight - the denial that it is a real problem that causes me to write this.

roflmao......

don't drink, don't smoke, eat healthy, get fit, do exercise, don't eat fast food, avoid coffee, visit the gym 3 times a week, go on a diet, use condoms, don't watch too much tv, don't spend hours in front of the computer, go for a walk, take up running, avoid white bread, eat whole grains, avoid too much meat, yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda

can anybody say, " dedicate your life to not having a life "??????

I don't run, I smoke, I drink, i can't be stuffed going to the gym, I enjoy watching tv, I work on the computer, I love a good cheeseburger, etc etc etc

I am enjoying life..... sure it may kill me... but I am gonna die anyway..... I am just enjoying the time I have before I die

while I may be 30 pounds overweight... its cos I have a very dense muscle / bone makeup and 3% body fat.....but a chart is saying that I need to exercise more and lose weight.......

its a bloody chart that doesn't take into consideration that I have a very solid build and that the only way I can lose weight is to cut my legs off.....

its the same chart that is calling tim overweight, and telling tim that tim can not be happy or enjoy life cos tim is over weight.....

tim, stop laughing and smiling please..... you are not allowed to cos a chart said so.... please do not enjoy your day, cos the chart is sure that you can not enjoy your day
btw, the chart has also decided that your quality of life can't be as good as it is cos you are overweight... therefore you must avoid having good friends...as good friends help with quality of life, and that is not allowed according to the chart

lol the same chart tells my friend that they are seriously underweight...so my friend better ignore the specialists and experts that have ruled that my friend is in perfect health.... just have a very slim build for their height

[alaskacouple]

Well, I said; "I'll probably get my hand bit..."

A Prophet is among you!

[Delilah]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with maintaining your health. Eating right and excercise makes life easier. "we're gonna die anyway" isn't a healthy attitude. That's what my Sensei tells me. Since taking up martial art, I had changed that attitude.

I had gain a lot of weight when I was on hormones. The regiment had to change and the battle of the weight begins. I was up to 195 lbs and that was not good for 5'4" trans-woman. I went to a nutritionist and boy did I learn a lot about eating habits. Then I decided to take up martial art with my brother and learn the self discpline attitude. I am now down to 146 lbs and still toning (still working on flattening the tummy).

I feel good since I am more active outdoors. I watch very little tv (thank God for Tivos). I don't spend too much time at the computer unless I'm working and visiting bisexual.com and the tgirl group I own.
As James Brown says, "I FEEL GOOD!!!" :cool:

PS... by the way, Organic is the way to go ;)

[Long Duck Dong]

I am not saying there is anything wrong with weight management..... but I was making the point that people are quick to point the finger at others that are *bigger than average * and tell them that they can not be happy unless they are exercising and eating healthy


I am gonna die anyway.... is a valid statement.... its a true statement... cos unless somebody has discovered the fountain of eternal youth.... I am gonna die
.... its not gonna go away if I lose weight, eat healthy or organic, go for a run 3 nights a week or go to the gym......its not gonna go away if I live on 100 cheese burgers a week, smoke 3 packs a day, drink 2 bottles and whiskey a week


before I hear the dangers of heart diease, cancer, heart attacks etc etc etc..... lets not rule out car accidents, drowning, shootings, stabbings etc etc

I have never read the headlines " person dies in car crash due to years of eating cheeseburgers and a 2 pack a day habit "

now lets be realistic...... being overweight can cause problems.....its a know fact...... so lets has a compromise

I will stop eating cheese burgers and risking my health, when you stop driving a car and endangering people on the road

I will stop smoking and endangering my health, when you stop pumping exhaust fumes into the air and affecting many peoples health

I will stop drinking drinking and endangering my health, when your country stops shooting and killing people in the name of peace

I will start walking down the road and getting healthy, when people stop doing drive by's, muggings, stabbings and beating people up

I will stop spend hours on the computer and start getting healthy, when somebody buys me the winning lottery ticket so I no longer have to work for a living

I will go to the gym and get healthy, when it stops costing me $80 a chiropactor and $380 a year, to get on a exo cycle

I will take up swimming to get healthy, when people work out that the swimming pool is not a toilet.....

or in simple english.... its a damm sight safer and cheaper for me to sit on my ass and get fat, then it is for me to get healthy

btw..... have you checked out the injury and death rate for people using equipment, exercises and healthy eating ???

in nz its actually HIGHER than the death rate attrubited to overweight and obese issues

[the mage]

You do NOT have to be "average" to be healthy!

Dont lie about being exceptional!