Can you say...

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Can you say Troll, Boys and Girls? lol this is the responce I got from our Dear Jeanie a minute ago. Nice isnt she?

: WTF??

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Originally Posted by Cherokee_Mountaincat
I'm not male. You supposedly are.

Jeanie: neither am i, retard. apparently you can't read a simple profile.
you wish.


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Originally Posted by Cherokee_Mountaincat
and for someone Supposedly being a Sub, you're piss poor at it.

Jeanie: your ignorance of what it truely is to be dominant or submissive is total.


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Originally Posted by Cherokee_Mountaincat
And next time you feel the need to exert what little comments you have towards me, re-think yourself.

Jeanie: here's a comment for you... piss off loser.

Sigh. Some people's children. :rolleyes::cool:
Cat

[12voltman59]

Looks like you have made a new friend Cat!! lol

[TwylaTwobits]

Aww Cat how will you ever live now??? OMG you poor thing....oh wait being called a loser by someone with obvious issues is not such a bad thing. More power to ya, girlfriend.

[cliffordmontero]

awwww, iddnt dat speshul

[Lonewolf76]

My dearest CAT, I know how much this negative diatribe has probably affected you, when you consider the source - that such a mature, kind, gentle and loving CHILD as Jeannie thinks so little of you - Darlin- you must be devastated!! Just want you to know - THE DR IS "IN" should you need therapy or counseling. Wolfie Howwwwwlllllll!!!!

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Yep, thanks guys and gals. I actually got a tear over her little tirade. Truth hurts I guess. She didnt like me stating that I didnt want to be included in her lil temper tantrum on threads and to disclude me in them. Oh well...such is life.
Hey Wolfie..come hold me..I's scared...LOL :rolleyes:
Cat

[mikey3000]

i smelled the troll from his/her first sentence. Pee uuu!

[Aristede]

See, Cat. All you need to do is bake everyone some cookies. Obviously there are many who are in need of attention and freshly baked cookies. :tongue:

- Will

[transcendMental]

Can you say Troll, Boys and Girls? lol this is the responce I got from our Dear Jeanie a minute ago. Nice isnt she?

: WTF??

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherokee_Mountaincat
I'm not male. You supposedly are.

Jeanie: neither am i, retard. apparently you can't read a simple profile.
you wish.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherokee_Mountaincat
and for someone Supposedly being a Sub, you're piss poor at it.

Jeanie: your ignorance of what it truely is to be dominant or submissive is total.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherokee_Mountaincat
And next time you feel the need to exert what little comments you have towards me, re-think yourself.

Jeanie: here's a comment for you... piss off loser.

Sigh. Some people's children. :rolleyes::cool:
Cat

FWIW, I'm pretty unimpressed with both of you, reading this.

Call a transwoman male and you're apt to get a rude response in return. But that seems to be what you were aiming at. Why else call her male?

Don't get me wrong. I really disapprove of Jeannie's tactics in the forums, and don't think she serves herself, transpeople generally, or LGBT people generally by resorting to such nastiness.

But you baiting her in private and then posting it in public, while being just as nasty as she is? I'm afraid it doesn't improve either of your images.

tm

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Thank you for your comments Gentleman, even tho neither of you were in on the whole conversation and do not know the whole extent of it. But ya'll have a nice day anyway. Bless yer lil hearts..:}
Cat

[Luffly1]

Ok. So, when all I did was clear up an obvious misunderstanding with how she interpreted something that Twyla had said how did that suddenly make Jeannie "right on" with saying I'm against equality for GLBT?

[csrakate]

CSRkate posted that is she had seen LDD write a post in which he likened me to an ass and told me to drop my arguments because I was making a bad name for LGBT people she would have said something to him as she did to me. I see no record of her having done that - I bet she didn't even go look for the post of LDD in which he made those claims.

Sure doesn't show much tolerance does it Cat, CSRkate, Pasa, ........etc



And if you take the time to read my post again,this is what I said:..

"As for LDD likening you to an Ass...I must say that I didn't catch that comment, but had I seen it, I would have felt the same about that comment as I feel about the comments Jeannie has made about LDD and Twyla. Name calling is never acceptable in a fair and reasonable debate and it merely disrupts the issue and divides the community."

So let me clarify...I said HAD I seen it I WOULD have said something to LDD just as I said to Jeannie about this situation. I was not aware that it required me to go back and research posts just so I could soothe your wounded pride. I didn't think researching the comment was necessary because I took your word for it that it happened and I didn't feel it necessary to go seek out the proof. And one more thing...I don't get this statement that you made: "she would have said something to him as she did to me". The comments I made in that very same thread were addressed to Jeannie....when did this become about YOU? I never asked you to be more civil....I never addressed my words to YOU. So why do I owe you the courtesy of going back and researching that comment to supposedly make a level playing field between you and LDD? Don't further complicate this issue by misreading my words and misinterpreting my intentions. I was addressing Jeannie. As far as I am concerned, I did what I could to let you see that I would have defended you just as well had I witnessed that exchange. There's not much more I can do and I don't know what more you expect of me.

I have nothing to apologize for! The only thing I ever did was call for some civility. I never said anyone could not express opinions, nor did I ever say anyone was better than another. I was simply tired of the bickering and the insult slinging and asked, for the sake of the site, that it be stopped.

Where did all this US vs THEM mentality start? I am a peacekeeper...not an agitator...but after this debacle...I am seriously thinking about be a totally non participating member of a site that I have grown to love. You can't win for losing around here and I am getting tired of defending myself for something I did not do.

[still_shy]

Well said Kate!

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Ya know, somehow or another this got turned into a big tirade over me refering to Jeannie as a male, and it got blow all out of shape from there..:rolleyes: That isnt exactly what happened and for all of you that wrote something into that wasnt there, I'm sorry you got that impression.
I am Not a Trans basher, and never shall be. This was the impression ya'll got from a snippet of a conversation. This isnt the case, but my intent wasnt to bash anyone of Any gender, it was to show you someone's behavior.
I'm sorry that some of you had to take it and twist it totally out of context, and if you wish to believe this about me, then that's your perogitive. Those that know me, know better. :}
Have a nice day.
Cat

[still_shy]

When I read your post Kate, I missed what you said about becoming a non-participating member of the site....Please don't. We would lose a lot if you stopped contributing here. I would hate to see that happen.

[*jeannie*]

the two private messages from Cherokee_Mountaincat that led up to that one from me...


You know what Buster? You dont know me and its evident in your mind that you dont Want to get to know folks on this site, all you want to do is keep on with your Trollish opinions. If you knew me you'd know that I am in no means Stupid, very far from it. You idiocy is going to cause you to be banned from this group if you keep on with your insults and constant attacks.
I dont care what you say to others, but attacking me isnt a wise move, I can assure you.
Cat



I'm not male. You supposedly are. I am a Prime Top Domme, and for someone Supposedly being a Sub, you're piss poor at it. And next time you feel the need to exert what little comments you have towards me, re-think yourself.
Cat

the last line in each private message CAN be construed as a veiled threat against me. what can she do other than report me and how scared would anyone be of getting banned from cyberland? none at all. so it's clear it was meant as a more real sort of threat.

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I really disapprove of Jeannie's tactics in the forums, and don't think she serves herself, transpeople generally, or LGBT people generally by resorting to such nastiness.

i know i am acting very badly but i cannot see how some people cannot see that Long Duck Dong is being duplicitous in the matter of equal rights for all and are blindly supporting his "no equal rights for all" agenda.

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This isnt the case, but my intent wasnt to bash anyone of Any gender, it was to show you someone's behavior.

by baiting her.


I'm sorry that some of you had to take it and twist it totally out of context,

they just saw your obvious intent.

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[jamieknyc]

And if you take the time to read my post again,this is what I said:..

"As for LDD likening you to an Ass...I must say that I didn't catch that comment, but had I seen it, I would have felt the same about that comment as I feel about the comments Jeannie has made about LDD and Twyla. Name calling is never acceptable in a fair and reasonable debate and it merely disrupts the issue and divides the community."

So let me clarify...I said HAD I seen it I WOULD have said something to LDD just as I said to Jeannie about this situation. I was not aware that it required me to go back and research posts just so I could soothe your wounded pride. I didn't think researching the comment was necessary because I took your word for it that it happened and I didn't feel it necessary to go seek out the proof. And one more thing...I don't get this statement that you made: "she would have said something to him as she did to me". The comments I made in that very same thread were addressed to Jeannie....when did this become about YOU? I never asked you to be more civil....I never addressed my words to YOU. So why do I owe you the courtesy of going back and researching that comment to supposedly make a level playing field between you and LDD? Don't further complicate this issue by misreading my words and misinterpreting my intentions. I was addressing Jeannie. As far as I am concerned, I did what I could to let you see that I would have defended you just as well had I witnessed that exchange. There's not much more I can do and I don't know what more you expect of me.

I have nothing to apologize for! The only thing I ever did was call for some civility. I never said anyone could not express opinions, nor did I ever say anyone was better than another. I was simply tired of the bickering and the insult slinging and asked, for the sake of the site, that it be stopped.

Where did all this US vs THEM mentality start? I am a peacekeeper...not an agitator...but after this debacle...I am seriously thinking about be a totally non participating member of a site that I have grown to love. You can't win for losing around here and I am getting tired of defending myself for something I did not do.

You always did give too much attention to the stupid little pi$$ing matches that go on here, dear.

Answer not a fool according to his folly.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Ok, so whats your major beef with Duck and Twyla? You seem to attack them both at every opportunity. And I said nothing that isnt the truth, and if you consider it a veiled threat, that's Your problem. And yes, if enough folks report your actions to Drew and complain then you just might get banned, but again, that's Your problem.
Aint saying nothing else on this subject. Click..:}
You have a beautiful day Jeannie.
Cat

[transcendMental]

Ya know, somehow or another this got turned into a big tirade over me refering to Jeannie as a male, and it got blow all out of shape from there..:rolleyes: That isnt exactly what happened and for all of you that wrote something into that wasnt there, I'm sorry you got that impression.
I am Not a Trans basher, and never shall be. This was the impression ya'll got from a snippet of a conversation. This isnt the case, but my intent wasnt to bash anyone of Any gender, it was to show you someone's behavior.
I'm sorry that some of you had to take it and twist it totally out of context, and if you wish to believe this about me, then that's your perogitive. Those that know me, know better. :}
Have a nice day.
Cat

Cherokee_Mountaincat, I did not say you were transphobic or a transbasher, not did I suspect you were.

You posted the snippet of conversation for us to read. It was your choice of snippet, to point out Jeannie's bad behavior. I read what you chose to put out there - of course I couldn't read the full context, but what I read began with you calling her a male. What you posted looked exactly like you trying to bait her to get her angry enough to say stupid things, so you could post them here.

Now, when I point this out and suggest not that you are transphobic, but that you behaved just as nastily as Jeannie (not just from the male remark but from the entire exchange), you call me "gentleman", which I believe you know damned well hurts a transwoman to the core. I live my life as a woman and do my best to pass well; I believe I do well at it. I don't get called "gentleman" by anyone in my real life. But you? Because I didn't read your post the way you wanted me to?

I thought I did know you better. I had respect for you, as both intelligent and sensitive. I don't know if you're transphobic or not. I won't make such an allegation. But your little act of microaggression toward me certainly changes my attitude toward you.

If you care a whit about hurting me, or feel there's been a misunderstanding, I'll be happy to continue the conversation in private, as I think there's been far too much public pissing around recently. If you don't care, then you never did, and my prior understanding of you was inaccurate.

tm

[transcendMental]

i know i am acting very badly but i cannot see how some people cannot see that Long Duck Dong is being duplicitous in the matter of equal rights for all and are blindly supporting his "no equal rights for all" agenda.


Jeannie, if you know you are acting badly, then stop. Nothing excuses bad behavior and disrespect and nastiness toward others.

The fact that you can't see something does not mean it doesn't exist. It doesn't mean it does either, but it could also mean that your vision is limited. When we can accept the fact that we may be wrong, we gain wisdom, and in general are better at being at peace with the world.

tm

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

you call me "gentleman", which I believe you know damned well hurts a transwoman to the core. I live my life as a woman and do my best to pass well;

Ooops, sorry bout that. I had no idea you are a Transwoman. I dont go Every person's profile and look to see what gender they are, or what they prefer, and if I Did insult you, it wasnt intentional, believe me. I am not a mean spirited person, contrary to popular belief, and if you knew me, then you'd know this factor, but all you saw was an excerpt.
So if you continue to dislike me, then all I can say is sorry you do.
Have a nice day, Lady. :}
Cat

[*jeannie*]

Ok, so whats your major beef with Duck and Twyla?

he IS against GLBT people having the same rights as non-GLBT people. his posts ARE duplicitous. he says he is for equal rights for all but in between the lines it is perfectly clear that he IS preaching things along the lines of "don't make waves", "accept the status quo", "what about the rights of non-GLBT people" (which, i must point out, none of us has ever said should be infringed upon in any way), "constance is a bad person for fighting for her rights", etc.

as for Twyla, she supports him and is involved with him romantically. he is nothing but the foulest of rubbish masquerading as a decent person and he has her and many of you here deceived. i guess it is just tearing me up that she will someday suffer great hurt from him. she does not deserve that hurt.

she has allowed love to blind her to the reality of the thing loved. i cannot see how anyone can be so blind to such an obvious loser as Long Duck Dong.


And I said nothing that isnt the truth, and if you consider it a veiled threat, that's Your problem.

yes, you did.

it was most definitely a veiled threat made in anger. whether you ever intended to act on it is another matter entirely. at the very least you hoped you could scare me into laying off of you.


And yes, if enough folks report your actions to Drew and complain then you just might get banned, but again, that's Your problem.

i know that. maybe people need to stop saying "jeannie is wrong", "LDD is not doing that", "LDD is a good person", "LDD is for equal rights", etc... and start learning the meanings of such things as "duplicity" and "concern trolling"
then applying their new-found knowledge by looking at things with good eyes, not blind eyes.

*


Jeannie, if you know you are acting badly, then stop. Nothing excuses bad behavior and disrespect and nastiness toward others.

and what of the bad behavior of the others directed towards me? what is it that excuses it for them?


When we can accept the fact that we may be wrong, we gain wisdom, and in general are better at being at peace with the world.

in general, i am wrong about how i am going about the whole thing. i should be calm and not insulting to anyone. i know that. however, being ganged up on tends to bring that sort of behavior out in many people. i started out by exposing Long Duck Dong for what he really is and trying to understand how some people cannot see what is so obvious about him. i then get ganged up on from all sides. who could fight fairly against the simultaneous attacks of multiple foes?

by the way, none of those who are against me here believe they could possibly be wrong.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Jeannie, relax and have a cookie or something. This whole thing has gotten waaay out of hand and its ridiculous. Step back and chill a little bit. Your personal views against Duck are just that, so why not leave it at that? If you dont like when He or anyone else, says or does, then theres a simple solution...hit the Iggy button, that way you, dont have to put up with something/someone that upsets you.
Iggy button IS our friend, and I intend on using it alot more in the near future.
Cat

[*jeannie*]

This whole thing has gotten waaay out of hand and its ridiculous.

it always seems to go that way when the mob mentality takes over for some of you people.


Your personal views against Duck are just that, so why not leave it at that?

were the personal views of the Jews that Hitler was a manical, mass-murderer just that... personal views. should they have left it at that? should the Allies have left it at that?

were the personal views of black Americans that white Americans (most anyways) were prejudiced, black-hating bigots just personal views? should the black Americans have left it at that? should the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Jr. have left it at that?

i think not.



If you dont like when He or anyone else, says or does, then theres a simple solution...hit the Iggy button,

ignoring his "no equal rights for all" agenda is the same as silent condonement.

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[transcendMental]

and what of the bad behavior of the others directed towards me? what is it that excuses it for them?

in general, i am wrong about how i am going about the whole thing. i should be calm and not insulting to anyone. i know that. however, being ganged up on tends to bring that sort of behavior out in many people. i started out by exposing Long Duck Dong for what he really is and trying to understand how some people cannot see what is so obvious about him. i then get ganged up on from all sides. who could fight fairly against the simultaneous attacks of multiple foes?

by the way, none of those who are against me here believe they could possibly be wrong.

Jeannie, nothing excuses bad behavior for them either. You are the one saying you know you are behaving badly, but you qualify it by saying "it's because...." My point is that there is no "because" that justifies bad behavior. If they were the ones trying to excuse their bad behavior, I'd be saying the same thing to them. Please notice that I did not excuse Cherokee Mountaincat for calling you a male, and being nasty and baiting toward you, but rather called her out on it.

As I've watched your posts unfold on this multitude of threads, I note the confrontational tone with which you have approached nearly everything, practically from the beginning. Your opening question to me above is phrased defensively and confrontationally, and I'm actually trying to help you.

Until very recently, what I've witnessed didn't look to me like a lot of people ganging up on you. Rather, it looked like a lot of people having similar complaints and observations about your defensive, condescending, and self-righteous style of posts, and things spiralled from there. Nobody likes being talked to as if they are stupid; nobody likes being told that if they don't agree with you they have no sense; nobody appreciates posting their views and then having a person make accusations against their character based on the views they expressed; nobody appreciates a person speaking as if they are the sole fount of wisdom and observation. When I say I don't approve of your tactics, those the ones I mean.

Now more recently, it does look like people are bonding together in opposition to you, but you have done quite a bit to invite that at this point.

From what I've seen of people here, they can admit they are wrong when they are shown to be wrong, and if treated with respect that all people deserve.

[*jeannie*]

Jeannie, nothing excuses bad behavior for them either. You are the one saying you know you are behaving badly, but you qualify it by saying "it's because...." My point is that there is no "because" that justifies bad behavior. If they were the ones trying to excuse their bad behavior, I'd be saying the same thing to them.

almost no one here is saying that we are all wrong for our wrong-doings. almost everyone is saying i am wrong for doing it but not telling others they are wrong for doing it.

i keep asking how it is wrong for me to do but right for them to do.


Please notice that I did not excuse Cherokee Mountaincat for calling you a male, and being nasty and baiting toward you, but rather called her out on it.

i noticed it. thank you.


As I've watched your posts unfold on this multitude of threads, I note the confrontational tone with which you have approached nearly everything, practically from the beginning. Your opening question to me above is phrased defensively and confrontationally, and I'm actually trying to help you.

this is their normal response to someone who does not agree with their clique. mob mentality. they cannot fight one-on-one. Long Duck Dong and all his buddies like to play "let's get her. she can't beat us all at once".

surely you must understand i'm being attacked from all sides in rapid succession and that sometimes makes for wild swings on my part. i'm sorry if i hit you with one of those wild swings.


Until very recently, what I've witnessed didn't look to me like a lot of people ganging up on you. Rather, it looked like a lot of people having similar complaints and observations about your defensive, condescending, and self-righteous style of posts, and things spiralled from there.

when i give dictionary definitions and they still do not understand what "duplicity" and "concern troll" mean and they cannot see that Long Duck Dong IS a concern troll and IS being duplicitous, that doesn't speak well for their intelligence.


Nobody likes being talked to as if they are stupid; nobody likes being told that if they don't agree with you they have no sense; nobody appreciates posting their views and then having a person make accusations against their character based on the views they expressed; nobody appreciates a person speaking as if they are the sole fount of wisdom and observation. When I say I don't approve of your tactics, those the ones I mean.

anyone who cannot understand dictionary definitions and realize that someone is doing something defined by those definitions is clearly not in the top of the intelligence ratings.


Now more recently, it does look like people are bonding together in opposition to you, but you have done quite a bit to invite that at this point.

they have been doing that from the start.


From what I've seen of people here, they can admit they are wrong when they are shown to be wrong, and if treated with respect that all people deserve.

you must be imagining that as i keep pointing out that they too are being insulting but none has admitted to being wrong for doing it except me.

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[BareHunter45]

I have tried to stay out of this...and I will only offer this one comment...you guys...ALL OF YOU...need to get past this...seriously...this isn't flattering to anyone. All of threads are full of this stuff. STOPPPP! If you don't...I'll leave....I've had enough and it is no longer fun reading the threads. Can we stop??? EVERYONE. Let my post be the last on this thread...PLEASE??