Labels? I dont need no stinkin' Labels!

[MarieDelta]

Ok, so I know that recently on the boards we've had a discussion of Pan/Bi sexual. I also know that some of us prefer no labels and others prefer their specific labels.

Some of us "round up (or down)" when we label ourselves.

Mostly we use labels as a (shorthand)way to describe ourselves and what we desire. In some way the most specific label available is our personal name "MarieDelta" tells you plenty about me certainly, but in some ways it falls sort of the mark as well.

Like telling someone that we are female or male tells others what to expect of us in general. Telling them we are bi/ pan - sexual tells them other things about us in general.

Some folks may be attracted to one specific type of male or female others only care that the personalities mesh well together or that there is some sort of spiritual connection.

I personally feel that labels are sometimes good and sometimes bad. The main problem with labels is that too often they are pushed onto us without our consent. A (fe)male sexed child is automatically assumed to be (fe)male through and through, which may not be true. In the bad old days sometimes intersexxed children were pushed into one role or the other , depending on what the Dr's decided was right (they would also modify the bodies to suit.)

The way that labels serve us is when we are able to use them to guide ourselves and others.

For example when I see a sign that says "LGBTQ", I know that in general my "alternative sexuality" is less likely to be a problem there than in other places and environments.

Also the term "Queer", some folks loathe the term others have found it to be a good way to "round up" their particular "alternative" sexuality. For me, personally, I find it to be something that is closest to saying "trans- pansexual – kinky (switchy) - polyamorous -female." Without having to say that every time I talk about myself to someone, it's also a good way to gloss over certain aspects of my sexuality in certain communities, that may be less accepting of one or more aspects of my sexuality.


So labels anyone?

[**Peg**]

...So labels anyone?

mine: human and humane

[_Joe_]

I like thinks that excite my penis.

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Just me. Just Cat ;)

[ErosUrge]

I personally feel that labels are sometimes good and sometimes bad. The main problem with labels is that too often they are pushed onto us without our consent. A (fe)male sexed child is automatically assumed to be (fe)male through and through, which may not be true. In the bad old days sometimes intersexxed children were pushed into one role or the other , depending on what the Dr's decided was right (they would also modify the bodies to suit.)


I agree and it would be wonderful if we didn't have the need for labels of any sort. Yet it is what guides or misguides how we communicate; respond; resist; are open or closed, etc.

Just like this label of being bisexual? What does it mean? To some it is definitive. Plain and simple, it means attraction to both sexes sexually regardless of your own gender; that is if you're male or female. But for others, there are different degrees of the bisexual experience and everyone has their version or interpretation of it.

In my youth, I didn't have a name for it at all. My sexual experiences whether with a male or a female were simply sexual experiences in definition. The thoughts and feelings I had in my play during sex with either sex differed according to whichever sex I was with; some more intense and some not so. But I didn't have a label for this. I simply enjoyed the moments for what they were. It was pointed out to me however by a male friend who I had just masturbated to orgasm that we needed to stop doing this with each other because it was queer and anyone who did this was a faggot; his words. This was his guilt after his orgasm though prior to that he wanted so badly for me to jack him off. Anyhow, that was when I realized there were labels for sexual behavior though his comments were not the first I'd heard about playing with the same sex.

I give myself the label of bisexual just to give it a name; nothing more than that and yet so much to that as well. I would love to move beyond the labels and hopefully humans will eventually evolve where it's no longer needed. Again, what does bisexual mean? Everyone who gives themselves this label about their sexuality are all similar in that their interests are with both sexes sexually but the degrees of those experiences varies from person to person.....

[olebear]

I do not label my social, sexual or spiritual orientation , I do not like to use labels it creates an unnecessary barrier between people and their connections to one another, to nature, and to the Seen and Unseen worlds.

Just like if I was say, I'm from Alaska and you are from the lower 48. This put's a certain degree of separation between us even though we are both Americans.

Witch in turn put's a certain degree of separation between us and other nations even though we are all part of the same world and we are all Human Beings.

The truth as I see it, is that the arrangement of the universe and the full harmony and tone of mankind, is a mighty universal dance, choreographed for the perfection and fulfillment of each participant, we are all a small part of the same Universe and all connected.

We are not and have never been separate, there are no borders, no labels and no flags to separate us from one another spiritually.

“There are many paths all leading to the same mountain top.”
The Buddha

[Long Duck Dong]

defining oneself or using labels ????

interesting question.... without labels we are one of the crowd, but without the defining of oneself, we lose the uniqueness that sets us apart.....

what is the difference between mariedelta, cat and myself, if we are not using defining aspects or labels ????

unfortunately, we need labels and defining to avoid people misunderstanding us.... and well if you are gonna fight for your rights, you need your label .....

while we may hate labels and definitions, without them, we are nobody and everybody.... not US

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Wanna give me a label? Label me "Bayybeee!" after I make your eyes roll, and your toes curl!! lmao:bigrin:
Silly Cat;)

[TwylaTwobits]

Personally, I have many friends who tell me what they consider themselves. And that's what I go by. If they want to label themselves then far be it from me or anyone to tell them they are wrong to call themselves bi, pan, trans, shemale, les, queer, fag whathaveyou. It's what makes them happy and if they are happy I'm happy. That's what friends do, they don't label, they just be your friend.

[darkeyes]

..if peeps wan labels fine.. if they dont... fine also isn it?:)

[MarieDelta]

..if peeps wan labels fine.. if they dont... fine also isn it?:)

of course...

A question though - If you dont want to be labled why would you come to a site that is labeled "Bisexual" ?

One that in fact forces you to choose your labels, and your attraction to members of the same sex(moss)/ members of the opposite sex(moos)?

[BiBedBud]

Juliet:
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."

Romeo and Juliet (II, ii, 1-2)
William Shakespeare

[justlooking222]

A question though - If you dont want to be labled why would you come to a site that is labeled "Bisexual"? .... forces you to choose your labels?

I am here because the site is here (build it and they will come).

I've never been forced to choose a label here... that's just silly.

[MarieDelta]

I am here because the site is here (build it and they will come).

I've never been forced to choose a label here... that's just silly.

You didnt have to choose between male, female, and transgender?

And didnt you have to choose a screen name?

Also there are plenty of other sites for other interests, do you think that you choose this one because it is the closest match to your sexual orientation?

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Hey Marie? Can I label you as yummy? *Snicker* :bigrin:;):)
Bad Cat

[MarieDelta]

Hey Marie? Can I label you as yummy? *Snicker* :bigrin:;):)
Bad Cat

You sure can!

[darkeyes]

of course...

A question though - If you dont want to be labled why would you come to a site that is labeled "Bisexual" ?

One that in fact forces you to choose your labels, and your attraction to members of the same sex(moss)/ members of the opposite sex(moos)?

Summat me has nev had a prob wiv is labellin mesel... hav long since known wot me is, Marie.. but wetha otha peeps decide 2 hav a label or not is up them.. but actually evry1 has a label.. may or may not hav owt 2 do wiv ther sexuality bur every1 has a label an they quite happy 2 use it.. in fact them cos we all hav quite a few wen it gets rite down 2 it..

..dus disagree that .com forces ne 1 2 use labels.. those that do do so of ther own volition.. ther arm not twisted up ther back.. an wy cum 2 a site labelled bisexual? We may or may not think of ourselves as bisexual, or call ourselves that.. but we hav a ruff idea wetha or not the kinda peeps an the typa subject matta meets our requirements.. wetha genuinely or simply 2 use prejudice 2 bait...

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Hey Fran? You're a yummy lil tart too...lol
Flirty Cat

[raistkit]

i don't need a label 3 litttle letters are good enough and they are "kit".

[MissyMissy]

where i live they some dumbed down even without a lable they assume sick things....

[darkeyes]

Hey Fran? You're a yummy lil tart too...lol
Flirty Cat

.. blows kissie an snuggles inta Cat.... :bigrin: