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IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN A THOUSAND OF US PEONS PAYING OUR TAXES TO GIVE THE PRIVILEGE TO MADAM QUEEN PELOSI TO FLY BACK AN FORTH TO CALIFORNIA
Remember the big media flap about Sarah Palin's clothing expenses?
Americans! Where are you? Are you awake?
We haven't heard any comments from media on "Queen Madam" Pelosi's snit about having to ride home in the small private, economy jet that comes with the Speaker's job. Remember how Madame Pelosi was so aggravated that this little jet had to refuel while transporting her to California every week? Remember that she insisted on a luxurious 200 seat jet to fly her to California nonstop, instead? Hello Folks! Are you awake?
Washington legislators who observed the Madam's Big Fat jet grinned with glee as Joe The Plumber informed all of us that Nancy 's luxury Jet will require hard working American taxpayers, to buy thousands of gallons of expensive jet fuel every week. She only works 3 days a week but her gas guzzler luxury jet flights home, to California, costs to taxpayers $60,000 one way! As Joe noted, 'Unfortunately we have to pay to bring her back on Monday night,' so there goes another $60,000. (and everyone thought CEO pampering was unreal)!!
Folks, that is $480,000 per month or an annual cost to taxpayers of $5,760,000. And she complains about the cost of the war?!? She "could" take the smaller jet which she says would cramp her style -- but since her flying in style takes precedence over war costs -- what do you say?
Military families in this country do without while this woman, who heads up the most do-nothing Congress in the history of our country, spends lavishly to fly herself and associates to and from California every week. Does that burn you, too?
Madame Pelosi expects you and I to conserve our carbon footprint by driving smaller cars and buying a bicycle pump to over-inflate our tires for better economy while she and her hypocrite cohorts waste tax payer dollars. Ticks you off, too?
THIS is an example of how Congress spends our hard earned money through their "personal waste" and "ear marks
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Where to start?
Apparently our soldiers have been needing to borrow rare flack jackets, shout bang after 5 bullets and fly around in leaky aircraft that blow up while the MOD have been spending the limited military funds on doing up their offices in prime site location with the most luxurious furniture under the sun
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Tell bitch ta take the train...lol
Good one Doggy.
Hugs
Cat
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Wow that would burn me up too! Except it not really all true.
As always you got to take the internet urban legends such as this, and run it through the fact checker. Snopes.com is usally your best bet:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp
If it were me, I'd be more upset at the person that is spreading inaccurate rumors and myths and getting you all worked up over nothing.
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Well, just for clarification and to back up what Doggie put up...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp
But, I do agree. For one, is she REALLY so important that they have to worry so much on security? Also, the fuel stops only take around a hour on a corporate jet the size of a GIII. (I flew a Falcon 20, alittle smaller than the G but it would be faster to fuel due to a single point fill VS the over the wing method.) This still gets her home faster than using the airlines and really, what can be so important that she can't spare one hour either way? The excess expense just to she can save a hour is overkill, pure and simple.
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Reading the Constitution...yes, she is pretty damn important...third in line to the presidency. And you should read your own link...not one flight on the 200 seater has been recorded...and I'm really confused that the GOP has time to make up such stuff...did they run out of gay and bisexuals to oppress?
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sdnaustin
Reading the Constitution...yes, she is pretty damn important...third in line to the presidency. And you should read your own link...not one flight on the 200 seater has been recorded...and I'm really confused that the GOP has time to make up such stuff...did they run out of gay and bisexuals to oppress?
I stand by what I said, there is no need for the 75'. *No, I am not saying this because she is who she is, or because she is a she, or because she is a Democrat* Oh, I would recommend that you re-reading that as well. She did use the 75' once due to other aircraft being unavailable.
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You know what burns me up-
The way our Government is fixing to give money to the idiots who got us here in the first place.(CEO's of Maj corps)
Another thing that gets me is the way our government toadies up to these people every time. these are the same fools who lobbied for (and got ) changes to the bankruptcy laws. So what have they done (other than whineabout how tough they have it) to help you and I out of this mess ? Not One Thing. They care less about you and I than their pets.
Speaker Pelosi may or may not deserve the Jet , but the government decided that they agreed and they let her have it.
Yes I agree we need to get our guys better equipment, but what did Bush & co choose to do with that money? Hire "mercenary": security firms , like Blackwater and Haliburton to do things that our military could have(and has ) done for much cheaper.
So yeah I am burned up about a few things here. But, as usual, our men are left fighting with rags on their feet. Some things never change.
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sdnaustin
Reading the Constitution...yes, she is pretty damn important...third in line to the presidency. And you should read your own link...not one flight on the 200 seater has been recorded...and I'm really confused that the GOP has time to make up such stuff...did they run out of gay and bisexuals to oppress?
I don't think Judicial Watch is an arm of the GOP. Here are their docs, obtained through the FOIA.
And here's a link from Politico...
*Taylor*
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Cherokee_Mountaincat
Tell bitch ta take the train...lol
Good one Doggy.
Hugs
Cat
Take the train ova 'ere an ya entire public expenditure budget wudn las 2 long... wudn b no dosh left for fitin daft things like wars can tellya that Cat..:tong:
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Doesn't the average person move to or rent near the place where they work?
Would save on commuting time and costs whatever the frequency of usage.
Seems to be good enough philosphy for Presidents and Prime Ministers
Agree with Darkeyes - war best avoided. Will be interesting to see whether soldiers can claim human rights violations for deficient kit etc currently under legal scrutiny in the UK. This is of course a little perverse as they would then better equiped to rain on other people's human rights. But as Dylan sang - God is on our side.
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sdnaustin
Wow that would burn me up too! Except it not really all true.
As always you got to take the internet urban legends such as this, and run it through the fact checker. Snopes.com is usally your best bet:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp
If it were me, I'd be more upset at the person that is spreading inaccurate rumors and myths and getting you all worked up over nothing.
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For all the folks who have believed what Snopes.com says about everything political – please read the whole article and decide for yourself
Now we ALL know !!!
For the past few years www.snopes.com has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell all final word' on any comment, claim and email.
But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com. Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it - kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It's just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.
David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation? The reason for the questions - or skepticisms - is a result of snopes.comclaiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues. I can personally vouch for that complaint.
A few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet, 'supposedly' the Mikkelson's claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort 'ever' took place.
I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this and I gave him Bud Gregg's contact phone numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet, snopes.com issued a statement as the 'final factual word' on the issue as if they did all their homework and got to the bottom of things - not!
Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are a very Democratic (party) and extremely LIBERAL I found this to be true during the recent elaection where anything NEGATIVE about BO was false--A much better source, at least not Bias is "true or fiction".As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their website findings. Gee, what a shock?
So, I say this now to everyone who goes to www.snopes.com to get what they think to be the bottom line facts...'proceed with caution.' Take what it says at face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can always google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do. After all, I can personally vouch from my own experience for their 'not' fully looking into things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com
Doggie :doggie:
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Hey Doggie, I am sorry and I am not saying this from a combative stance but....
Do you have a better source than Wiki for this? As, if you make your essays somewhat believable and add citations, you can post a completely misleading things there.
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Zwitter
Hey Doggie, I am sorry and I am not saying this from a combative stance but....
Do you have a better source than Wiki for this? As, if you make your essays somewhat believable and add citations, you can post a completely misleading things there.
Here ya go - have fun :bigrin:
http://pappysbalderdash.blogspot.com...ng-snopes.html
The lowdown on Snopes: ”Author unknown”
“As with everything on the web: verify, verify, verify!”
Some other ‘reference sites’:
Truth or Fiction
About.com - Urban Legends
Scambusters
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Whtehr or not Rep. Pelosi deserves a private jet (remember that Congressmen/women get paid a fraction of what they could get in the private sector), the same people who complain about it would be hollering if their commercial flight was delayed by security arrangements because the Speaker of the House was traveling on the plane.
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Doggie---as far as this issue is concerned--there is plenty of reporting on this issue and the major points of what you posted about this have been disproven----Pelosi has only used the larger aircraft on a few occassions---she doesn't go back to California every week for one thing and only goes back home to Calfornia when the Congress is in recess---and the use of the larger plane, when it happened was due in large consideration for post 9/11 security reasons--the ability to fly nonstop from DC to Calfornia and back did come out of those security concerns--Pelosi herself never asked to use a larger jet per se--she only wanted one that could make the trip non-stop without having to make the intermediary full pit stop when the plane was heading west against jet stream--like it or not--Pelosi is third in the line of succession, by the words of the Constitution itself, to assume the presidency of this nation and for security reasons---it is only right and proper that whoever the person is who fills that role--in this highly security obsessed age----is using a safe and secure aircraft---
What is she supposed to do--fly coach class on Southwest or some such airline???
This to me--is simply--with all the other profoundly serious issues that we face----a "tempest in a teapot"--it is largely one of those non-issue, issues that the right wing blogosphere and talk radio yack heads like to bring up to muddy the waters and get their followers all in a tizzy.
Like the lyrics from a great Johnny Cash song: "It don't mean nothing--move on!"
There are lots of other real, substantitve issues that people need to get concerned about.
If you are going to get your BP up to stroke levels--worry about some other more important issues---like the fact that they still don't have any sort of plan to get the banks to get their shit together!!!
That is one point that I will dog the Obama adminstration on----they are dropping the ball on that one to be damn sure!!!!!
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Hey Dog, lets take the bikes up to DC and kick that royal bitch in the ass.
In a time where so much is being made about our first black president, Ann Coulter made the following observation in her column of 2/25/2009:
"But as long as the nation is obsessed with historic milestones, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become speaker of the house?"
a great quote but i don't want to turn this thread into a piss on ann coulter- it was just a quote someone sent me. so don't go there.
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chulainn2
"But as long as the nation is obsessed with historic milestones, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become speaker of the house?"
Thank you, There is now iced tea all over my monitor.
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Ann Coulter should know about mental defect--she is one whacked out skank!!!! :bigrin::bigrin:
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chulainn2
"But as long as the nation is obsessed with historic milestones, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become speaker of the house?"
Can me remark bout how a mentally retarded man wos elected twice asya Pres, Chu hun??:bigrin:
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12voltman59
What is she supposed to do--fly coach class on Southwest or some such airline???
It's been several years ago (post 9-11), I can't remember where I flew from (Delta Airlines) but we did have a stop in Atlanta, GA - and who guess was on the plane? Former Presidrent Jimmy Carter (he came thru and shook everybody's hand)- and Pelosi is snipit about a private plane - sheeeeesh! The former President rode in First Class (I would expect that) and he had his enterage of secret service escorting him.
Now, Southwest doesn't have first class seating but other airlines do. - and if a former Pres can fly commercial - why can't she??
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If you are going to get your BP up to stroke levels--worry about some other more important issues---like the fact that they still don't have any sort of plan to get the banks to get their shit together!!!
That is one point that I will dog the Obama adminstration on----they are dropping the ball on that one to be damn sure!!!!!
I couldn't agree with you more on that point - but that's subject to another thread.
Doggie :doggie:
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darkeyes
Can me remark bout how a mentally retarded man wos elected twice asya Pres, Chu hun??:bigrin:
Oh you mean before the alzheimers set in
I got the wrong President didn't I?
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I had no idea Pelosi has personally pissed in Doggies corn flakes, cause I can't think of any otehr reason why he takes it so personally that she gets treat the exact same way that fat-fuck Dennis Hastert got treated.
Jimmy Carter flew commercial...ok, great, he CAN'T be President again. He has some security for life, but nother compared to a sitting leader.
All the major news has disproven this attack on Pelosi, from CNN to ABC, to Huffingtonpost...yet he doesn't back down, he changes the subject. The key points in it (that she flys home is a 200 seater every weekend) is a lie. Period. Doesn, didn't, problably will never happen...next!
Pelosi is NO ALLOWED to fly commercial. After 9/11 the speaker no longer has that option...Hastert didn't, Pelosi doesn't, the next person won't. GET OVER IT. McCain Lost...Palin is a red-neck loser...the last smart republican left office 100 years ago, and we've been fucked by their incompetant morons ever since.
Pelosi isn't perfect, but she's done a lot for the gay/bi/transgendered community, and that is why she makes people like Coulter so mouth-foamy. By spreading these lies you are helping the hate-mongers that push things like prop-8. Is there a gay/bi word for being an Uncle Tom? A Mary Cheney? A Mark Foley? Not sure if there is, but if there isn't we need one.
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sdnaustin
I had no idea Pelosi has personally pissed in Doggies corn flakes, ..............
I don't eat corn flakes - next .... :doggie:
McCain Lost...Palin is a red-neck loser...the last smart republican left office 100 years ago, and we've been fucked by their incompetant morons ever since.
This isn't about who won or who lost dummy - it's about the waisteful spending practrices of our Government (repubicans and demecraps alike) - your money, my money, our money - so don't start that redneck shit with me. (if you listen to Jeff Foxworthy - you might be a red-neck) :doggie:
Pelosi isn't perfect, but she's done a lot for the gay/bi/transgendered community, and that is why she makes people like Coulter so mouth-foamy. By spreading these lies you are helping the hate-mongers that push things like prop-8. Is there a gay/bi word for being an Uncle Tom? A Mary Cheney? A Mark Foley? Not sure if there is, but if there isn't we need one.
And I'll post my finale with this statement:
Although I am a bi-sexual male, born and bred in Texas, with contry raising in my blood - I am also a fiscal conservative - I do not believe in nor will I ever support socialized medicine, labor unions or other forms of non-conservative or liberalized agendas. Our government (primarily the congress) is out of control on fiscal spending and they need to be brought to heal. They are suposed to be servants not masters of the people.
BTW - did you know that the new (Hope) administration has spent more tax-payer dollars in it's first 90 days than George Bush spent in his entire first term?
Food for thought on the direction we are currently headed.
Doggie :doggie:
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First let me clear the air on a few points. I am atheist, meaning religions do not bind. I am not invested into any one ideology, political party, creed either. I am a meager proletariat that is just able to attempt covering the bills each week. I was publicly educated, high school alone. I am well read and versed in having an open mind, continually learning.
That out of the way, I normally do not bother much in opining on politics. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they can all stink, you can't ever argue those facts or opinions away. A genuine observation, a pinch of a few axioms later, I comment.
"You have to spend money to make money."
"You can not get blood from a rock." ( Except in an odd case where I once saw someone do that using a bit of majick. Atheism does not imply lack of spiritualism, albeit salted with skepticism. )
Those considered it appears the government is priming the pump the tried and sure Roman way. "Hey all you silly fat cats that allegedly represent us meager proletariats! We are all, as in globally, fucking broke in case you've not read the double bang headlines lately! Stop squeezing the rock or the blood you see may just be your own."
The Roman way? "If we can't have the well, no one else shall either, poison it!"
Quite similar to the cry of "Kill them all, God shall sort his own!" Which was used in the times of the Inquisitions, Burning Times. I agree with Rage Against the Machine more every day ... "ain't it funny how the new sound is just the same as the old sound, like the noose round" And, "there is a right to obey and a right to kill".
Excuse me, off to find some Suicidal Tendencies, the Heavy Metal group. Gads knows, I've enough of them otherwise ... <chuckling>
Perhaps not exactly the most apro place to ask, but I shall at any given.
If anti-depressants do not prevent or cause depression to cease, why are they called *ANTI*-depressants? Isn't that like false advertisement?
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void_dweller
If anti-depressants do not prevent or cause depression to cease, why are they called *ANTI*-depressants? Isn't that like false advertisement?
Sheesh! Great response to the Doggie post.. Not quite understanding the 'rant' and 'flame' about that post but each to their own I guess. Glad Doggie isn't on the radio or Rush would have a major competitor.
Yeah, that ANTI- thing griefs me out also. Most things labeled ANTI- don't work as advertised. View the schuckster known as Billy Mays, http://www.directcreative.com/blog/k...-of-billy-mays just to re-verify.
Oh well, let the rants, roars and name calling continue, just shows the lack of education and view of a bigger picture. Dam, I hate being labeled as a liberal 'cause I can see past the end of my nose.
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Hephaestion
Oh you mean before the alzheimers set in
I got the wrong President didn't I?
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Ya dus.. but ther wos 'im an all..
By way..me dad used 2 hav a poster of Reagan carryin Thatcher based on "Gone With the Wind" wiva bloody gr8 mushroom cloud in background.. Talk bout mentally defective.. tee hee (them not me dad.. 'es luffly..):bigrin:
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graytwo
Glad Doggie isn't on the radio or Rush would have a major competitor.
Why thank you ever so much for the compliment graytwo ...... but, does that mean I have to start smoking cigars again? :eek:
Oh, and by the way, we see past the end of our noses too. We look more to the future than you might think.
Doggie :doggie:
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Dogwood
Why thank you ever so much for the compliment graytwo ...... but, does that mean I have to start smoking cigars again? :eek:
Oh, and by the way, we see past the end of our noses too. We look more to the future than you might think.
Doggie :doggie:
Hi Doggie! don't restart smoking cigars :eek: Learned a long time ago that talking about sex, religion or politics just gets you in trouble on any type of discussion board unless that is what the prime focus of the board is about. Since this one is about "bi-sex" ?;) and how we all are trying to cope with our feelings about being 'one of those types' by adding politics to the mix just muddies the water and clouds the issue.
Yup I can see past my nose also but those darn bi-focual glasses I wear makes walking up and down stairs a thrilling experince. :)
Think of it this way, We're all in a sinking ship and when the water is flooding around us, it's more important to bail and fix the ship to keep it from sinking rather than finger point as to "who" drilled all the holes that let the water in..
just my thoughts
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I really don't have any opinion about all this one way or the other.
It is just that I noted my posts are down to .33 per day and I thought that maybe I should try to bump my average up a bit...... That's all.
Thanks.
And have a good evening.