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  1. #1

    I hate monogamy.

    So I'm not very good with monogamy. I just don't get it. Most women are jealous if their man cheats on them. I personally think it would be hot to watch my husband with another woman. Even hotter if I could be involved.

    And I don't understand why anyone would WANT a monogamous relationship. You're going to promise never to have sex with anyone except that one person. Why would anyone WANT to do that? I just don't understand.

    But my disinterest in monogamy gets me into trouble. Why? Well, because I want to have sex with people I'm not supposed to!

    Do you guys think that, on average, bisexuals are more polyamorous more than straights and gays? I've met a couple other bisexual females that think about monogamy the same way I do, but I've never a straight or gay female that has that philosophy, though there are men who think that way.

    EDIT: People are misinterpreting this, so let me clarify. I have never lied to a partner or cheated behind someone's back. I said I get into trouble because I WANT to have sex with other people, not because I actually do it. I have just suggested to my husband that I would like an open relationship. Since he's not comfortable with it, I go along with the monogamy, because I love him more than anything and meaningless sex with other people is not that important to me. Also, my husband has agreed that I can have a girlfriend, just not a boyfriend. This is perfectly fine.

    What frustrates me is that no one understands the way I think about sex. If I express interest in having multiple partners people think I don't love my husband or that I want to leave him or that he's not good in bed, but none of those things are true. I love him very much and he is awesome in bed. I just don't like monogamy. No one seems to get that.
    Last edited by kcatthegreat; Jul 21, 2010 at 9:43 PM.

  2. #2

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    yeah you are right. monogamy sucks.

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnsmith8520 View Post
    yeah you are right. monogamy sucks.
    And if you are with the right person it swallows too

  4. #4

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by kcatthegreat View Post
    And I don't understand why anyone would WANT a monogamous relationship. You're going to promise never to have sex with anyone except that one person. Why would anyone WANT to do that?
    Because a committed relationship is great when you're in it with the right person.

    There's nothing wrong with hating monogamy. But if your partner thinks you've promised to be monogamous and is proven wrong later, it's a massive breach of trust. It's better to clear stuff with them before, and if both of you are cool with non-monogamy, go to town.

  5. #5

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by ninetythree View Post
    Because a committed relationship is great when you're in it with the right person.

    There's nothing wrong with hating monogamy. But if your partner thinks you've promised to be monogamous and is proven wrong later, it's a massive breach of trust. It's better to clear stuff with them before, and if both of you are cool with non-monogamy, go to town.
    Exactly what I was thinking.

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by kcatthegreat View Post
    And I don't understand why anyone would WANT a monogamous relationship. You're going to promise never to have sex with anyone except that one person. Why would anyone WANT to do that? I just don't understand.
    I think Monogamy is a perfectly valid choice if both people can really abide by it.

    For myself I could never imagine a monogamous relationship working. I’d view to only ever have sex with one person for the rest of my life as (for me) being much the same as only ever talking to one person.

    Many Gay Male couples I know have sexually “open” relationships – though monogamous in terms of emotional attachment.

    Several of them have said that their other sexual experiences bring fresh ideas into the sexual relationship between them. Though maybe this is just an excuse for being horny!

    There are a few people I know who are “Serial Monogamists”. When they do “wander” it often sounds like it is the secrecy, lies and a sense of betrayal that causes the damage – rather than just having an experience outside the relationship.

  7. #7

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    as a monogamous bisexual male, I can honestly say that monogamy is not for everybody.....

    you are either able to handle monogamy or you are not..... and if you are not, it can become a struggle to cope with it....

    in a way, people can be polar opposites, you have the monogamous people that find no interest in multiple lovers and in fact find it causes more issues for them....and you will have the non monogamous people that enjoy the multiple lovers for a number of reasons, and find that * settling down * to one partner is not in their nature

    part of the trouble is actually relationship and marriage.... generally they are one on one, even when open.... as you are returning to the side of the person you are committed to...lol and it has always amused me that people are anti monogamy, yet live in a monogamous styled situation and still doing the single lifestyle.....

    each to their own....lol.... non monogamy is not for me.... and monogamy is not for others......

    I refuse to blame others for our choices..... I am not morally or socially or religious guided to be monogamous..... its just in me to be monogamous cos its simply less issues for me.....and always has been.......

    poly or monogamy .... the choice is for each person to make.... but lol... with two people in a relationship..... sometimes the choices we make for ourselves are not a choice we can make for the relationship / marriage....
    The only thing more painful than a broken heart, is catching yourself in your zip and having very cold hands

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong View Post
    poly or monogamy .... the choice is for each person to make.... but lol... with two people in a relationship..... sometimes the choices we make for ourselves are not a choice we can make for the relationship / marriage....
    I think you've got a very realistic and pragmatic approach to the issue

    I guess what's most important is that two people in a relationship both have the same ideas and expectations in this area.

    But I'm no expert at all - and maybe will completely change my own view if I meet someone I love that wants monogamy (though I guess he or she would have to be as sexually hot as hell for it to work out).

  9. #9

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    If you dislike monogamy that much, there's an easy solution. You and your partner can choose not to be monogamous. It's really that simple.

    What you do in your relationship is your business and no one elses, save your partner. But, what others choose to do in their relationship (including monogamy) is none of your business, either. I'm not sure why you let it bother you, or why you are disparaging those who choose something different than yourself.

    I hate mushrooms, therefore I choose not to eat them. But I don't hate other people who love to eat them. To each his own.

  10. #10

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    I think that everyone has to work out for themselves how they deal with being monogamous or not----and what a couple decides among themsevles on the nature of their relationship is going to be is their business.

    It is kinda of a bummer that society still has all kinds of "rules" that we are "supposed to follow" along those lines.

    Just look at our books, movies, music, TV stories, etc.

    For supposedly being so "liberal" and out "to destory traditional family values" and all---if you just look at most movies that Hollywood puts out even today---they have a fairly narrowly defined set of "rules" when it comes to people dating and mating that pretty much makes them be defenders of the heterosexual, monogomaous, matrimonial status quo.

    Sometimes it seems "modern movies" are even more that way than they were back in "the heyday" of Hollywood.

    Let's face it-----most modern romantic comedy movies are pretty much anti-GLBT friendly----ohhh--they might occasionally have some characters that aren't hetero--but such characters are usually marginal, sadsack, unhappy people who are portrayed in very stereotypcial ways. They sure do argue that monogamy is the way things should be.

    Certainly---modern films or TV shows, like "Sex in the City" might have some non-traditional characters like Samantha, but most of the characters are straight people desperately seeking to mate up with that "perfect" man or woman-not of the same sex of course and when they do find that person--they live happily ever after and life becomes just peachy-keen!!

    It is pretty hard to go against the grain when the messages coming from "society" are that we should all be straight, monogamous people that just have to be married very early in life (like certainly before age 40) or we are some sort of social "undesirables" and are unfullfilled losers if we don't get married early on to that perfect, opposite gendered person.
    "Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere..." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

  11. #11

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    I agree Voltman. I would expect more support between bisexuals and yet we have posters stating that they are monogamous as if to be otherwise is a shameful act. There are a lot of cultural controls and myths today enforcing a monogamous attitude in mainstream society. Monogamy works for some but not too many over the long haul. I personally kind of like the feeling of security that someone loves me enough that they will not step outside of our monosexual (hetero or gay) relationship. I know that it is not a realistic attitude to hold though. Most of us here are bisexuals and should be preparing not just ourselves but others on this site to accept that monogamy is not realistic for us.

    Far too much emphasis is placed on how shattering it is for a person when someone steps outside of a monogamous relationship. It would be better to prepare the shattered people on how to deal with things when something goes wrong long before it does. Place less emphasis on how terrible it is for monogamy vows failing because their is a high chance that it will in today's western societies. Then the relationship may proceed rather than end if it is better prepared for this possibility? (just a thought)

    Monogamy as a realistic lifestyle for a healthy bisexual should be put away with Santa Claus. It may work but at what cost? Too much emphasis on the couple concept and not enough on the person. It is not fair to put such pressure on bisexuals (* to paraphrase a recent poster)

    With more than 60% of men stepping outside of their relationship sometime during their life, women are not much better), monosexuals (hetero or gay) people should be better prepared to deal with monogamy in a more realistic manner. Bisexuals should stop denying that it is unnatural for us but bible thumper mentality that wants to support monogamy keep the story going.

    Where are all the threads about alternate relation variations on this bisexual website? That would seem to be a more realistic approach for bisexuals imo. Instead we have moralistic preachers crying about the poor victims. You are only a victim if you are not prepared and unskilled to deal with it in a more healthy manner. Bisexuals should give more positive support to other bisexuals caught in a hetero monosexual relationship where the hetero refuses to accept divergence.

    Bisexuals should not be restricted by monsexuals (hetero or gay). Hell, monosexuals should be more enlightened and less stupid about aspirations of monogamy.

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    Smile Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by 12voltman59 View Post
    Certainly---modern films or TV shows, like "Sex in the City" might have some non-traditional characters like Samantha, but most of the characters are straight people desperately seeking to mate up with that "perfect" man or woman-not of the same sex of course and when they do find that person--they live happily ever after and life becomes just peachy-keen!!
    Thank goodness for cable TV and endless repeats - so I can see non recent shows like "Sex in the City".

    I did find "Will and Grace" rather silly - Will's love life seems almost incredibly pedestrian and asexual for a supposedly gay man.

    In fact Brian in "Queer as Folk" has a sex life that is much nearer reality - except the guys I've met with a similar income all tend to be quite a bit older (but still often just as hot!).

  13. #13

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by tenni View Post
    Bisexuals should not be restricted by monsexuals (hetero or gay). Hell, monosexuals should be more enlightened and less stupid about aspirations of monogamy.
    Bisexuals are not restricted by "monosexuals." If you don't want to be monogamous, don't promise monogamy to your partner. It's simple. Then your partner can decide whether he or she wants a relationship on those terms.

    Should people prepare themselves for the possibility their partner will cheat? Sure. Does that mean it's OK to cheat? No.

  14. #14

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    ...as is usual, a whole lot of side branching into other queries, not much focus on the intial question.

    monogamy is highly personal preference, for the individual as well as the relationship. as our poster inquires, or more aptly, states its not her! pretty damn directly, and the situation is made worse, as there is the hetero spouse that sets parameters of carefully defined borders.

    the only thing is to set the hubby down, lay out your expectations; then, he should be given the same chance. from there you can start a dialogue of what can be acceptable or not , and if there is too many no's, mmmh, well time for some very serious meditation as to where you want to find yourself down the road.

    as to all the society blah, blah, if that sort of thing is important to you, then it only adds yet another set of definitions to corral yourself and the spouse.

    the relationship is the two of you, and is that to be true to self as well as the other, or exist in yet another ltr, that is lived in bitterness or worse.

    as to the bisexual having a right to a polymorous relationship, i think it is less the bisexual, and more the polysexual that considers this type of relationship a right. not that the bisexual ltr can't have the same, hell, any sexuality can have polymorous relationships, but these other sexualities are more likely to perfer definitions to their partners expectations, as well as to make a personal decision along that perference, that a polysexual may find highly restrictive.

    again, my choice is mine, and your's is your's; and so along with what the partner expects, a collective, or finally, an individual decision, becomes necessary.

    a prayer that you can find the wisdom to know what that answer will ultimately be!
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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    ...okay, i was going to hold off on this, in order to direct my response to the intended posting, but..,

    what the fuck is a monosexual, someone who beats off in the privacy of their abode. i have never in all my wanderings come across a monosexual!!!

    someone want to enlighten this boy?!
    get in! sit down! hold on! and shut up!

  16. #16

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    the thing we have to do, is realise, nobody is forcing the bisexual to stray..... there is no partner sitting at home with a gun to our heads forcing us to sleep with other people, so we need to stop blaming our partners for our actions

    we also need to accept that the rep that we have as unfaithful people, is one we deserve if we are going to say, we want our relationships and marriages, but we want our extra sexual activities as well

    and we will have to accept that the bisexual community will split into splinter groups.... as not everybody thinks the same way or feels the same way about things

    I can not help but notice that the people that form relationships and marriages that are open and sexually free.... are generally the same people that are not in the forums bitching about how they got into relationships with monogamous natured people and how wrong and unfair it is and how selfish it is......

    there have been times that I have had bi friends bitching about how they can not have a relationship with hot sexy females, cos the female is not interested in a open relationship and how the female is being selfish cos the bi guy wants to be with her......
    it amuses the hell out of me...... bi people complaining cos they want a relationship with a person that doesn't want a open relationship.....
    newsflash,.... people do not have to date bisexual people.... or sleep with them either......

    even better, get rid of relationships and marriage.... that solves the monogamy issue in relationships and marriage......
    but no, people still want the best of both worlds and none of the issues that can come with it......lol
    The only thing more painful than a broken heart, is catching yourself in your zip and having very cold hands

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    ...oh what the hell!

    isnt it somewhat of a conflict to talk of this supposed monosexual, in any kind of consideration of a damn relationship???
    get in! sit down! hold on! and shut up!

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by citystyleguy View Post
    ...okay, i was going to hold off on this, in order to direct my response to the intended posting, but..,

    what the fuck is a monosexual, someone who beats off in the privacy of their abode. i have never in all my wanderings come across a monosexual!!!

    someone want to enlighten this boy?!
    just for you city...... monosexual.... do not confuse with mono rail :p
    The only thing more painful than a broken heart, is catching yourself in your zip and having very cold hands

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong View Post
    loving you right back, ldd;

    leave it to wikipedia to dump mud right back into the muck; so what then is the meaning of heterosexual, or is this one of those philosophical discussions of understanding the concept of the irrestible force encountering the immovable object!
    get in! sit down! hold on! and shut up!

  20. #20

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    ''Far too much emphasis is placed on how shattering it is for a person when someone steps outside of a monogamous relationship. It would be better to prepare the shattered people on how to deal with things when something goes wrong long before it does. Place less emphasis on how terrible it is for monogamy vows failing because their is a high chance that it will in today's western societies. Then the relationship may proceed rather than end if it is better prepared for this possibility? (just a thought)''

    Oh, Yeah, really??

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by citystyleguy View Post
    loving you right back, ldd;

    leave it to wikipedia to dump mud right back into the muck; so what then is the meaning of heterosexual, or is this one of those philosophical discussions of understanding the concept of the irrestible force encountering the immovable object!
    heterosexuality

    the key is the wording... monosexuals are attracted to one gender..... heteros are attracted to the opposite genders. homosexuals to the same gender, pansexuals to all genders.....

    monosexual can mean a gay, lesbian or hetero person as they are attracted to one gender......
    The only thing more painful than a broken heart, is catching yourself in your zip and having very cold hands

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    Unhappy Re: I hate monogamy.

    I have noticed in my short time on this site that the various “Monogamy” threads seems to be a rather “BIG ENDIAN” / “LITTLE ENDIAN” type of debate and seem to be a cause of personal conflict between people who seem to agree on almost all the important issues?

    Though I guess I’m blundering in where angels fear to tread

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong View Post
    heterosexuality

    the key is the wording... monosexuals are attracted to one gender..... heteros are attracted to the opposite genders. homosexuals to the same gender, pansexuals to all genders.....

    monosexual can mean a gay, lesbian or hetero person as they are attracted to one gender......
    okay, you win!

    maybe the workday has been longer than i thought, maybe i only understand russian now, i could do with a latte, or maybe a late night cappa, what the fuck;

    and now i am going to go play solitair with a deck of 51!

    you know i love you, my other ducks! thanks for trying, tho'
    get in! sit down! hold on! and shut up!

  24. #24

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by citystyleguy View Post
    loving you right back, ldd;

    leave it to wikipedia to dump mud right back into the muck; so what then is the meaning of heterosexual, or is this one of those philosophical discussions of understanding the concept of the irrestible force encountering the immovable object!
    It does sound like a George Carlin comedy bit... "how do you TAKE a piss? I don't know about you, but I LEAVE a piss, I don't take one" kind of thing.

  25. #25

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    I have a very selfish reason for being monogamous, Cause I hate how I feel about ME, when I cheat. Back in the day cheating was such a soul crushing experience. Too hurt the one I gave MY word too was sooo painful. I solved the problem by being in a marriage with a woman who is also bi and shares my love of sex. We use to be into 3somes and other non-monogamy scenes but never cheated nor played without consent. Just so happens we have been monogamous for a long time now, but that is more a result of timing and life and all that jazz. But even if do play again someday (I am certain we will) we will maintain our trust and openness. I would never be in a relationship again that was the so called "forced monogamy" but monogamy by choice sure does seem to work. The knowing I could go be with someone takes away all that control stuff.

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by just4mefc View Post
    It does sound like a George Carlin comedy bit... "how do you TAKE a piss? I don't know about you, but I LEAVE a piss, I don't take one" kind of thing.
    Not to go into too much detail on my Watersports fetish - but I'd never dream of leaving a piss

  27. #27

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by tenni View Post
    I agree Voltman. I would expect more support between bisexuals and yet we have posters stating that they are monogamous as if to be otherwise is a shameful act. There are a lot of cultural controls and myths today enforcing a monogamous attitude in mainstream society. Monogamy works for some but not too many over the long haul. I personally kind of like the feeling of security that someone loves me enough that they will not step outside of our monosexual (hetero or gay) relationship. I know that it is not a realistic attitude to hold though. Most of us here are bisexuals and should be preparing not just ourselves but others on this site to accept that monogamy is not realistic for us.

    Far too much emphasis is placed on how shattering it is for a person when someone steps outside of a monogamous relationship. It would be better to prepare the shattered people on how to deal with things when something goes wrong long before it does. Place less emphasis on how terrible it is for monogamy vows failing because their is a high chance that it will in today's western societies. Then the relationship may proceed rather than end if it is better prepared for this possibility? (just a thought)

    Monogamy as a realistic lifestyle for a healthy bisexual should be put away with Santa Claus. It may work but at what cost? Too much emphasis on the couple concept and not enough on the person. It is not fair to put such pressure on bisexuals (* to paraphrase a recent poster)

    With more than 60% of men stepping outside of their relationship sometime during their life, women are not much better), monosexuals (hetero or gay) people should be better prepared to deal with monogamy in a more realistic manner. Bisexuals should stop denying that it is unnatural for us but bible thumper mentality that wants to support monogamy keep the story going.

    Where are all the threads about alternate relation variations on this bisexual website? That would seem to be a more realistic approach for bisexuals imo. Instead we have moralistic preachers crying about the poor victims. You are only a victim if you are not prepared and unskilled to deal with it in a more healthy manner. Bisexuals should give more positive support to other bisexuals caught in a hetero monosexual relationship where the hetero refuses to accept divergence.

    Bisexuals should not be restricted by monsexuals (hetero or gay). Hell, monosexuals should be more enlightened and less stupid about aspirations of monogamy.
    Why should monosexuals be more enlightened? It is so easily argued that being monogamous is also enlightened. What is enlightened is trying to understand why our partners have the attitudes and personal sexual morality they do.

    Many people fall in love or enter into a relationship with someone who believes in monogamy while they themselves do not wish to live such a life. Something has to give if such relationships are to work. Ignore society and its accepted morality for now. Two people want a relationship but each has different sexual beliefs. Are they to completely sacrifice their love for each other because of it? There can be compromise, but it isn't easy. It is easier for the one who does not want a monogamous relationship in one sense to make the sacrifice. Their more relaxed attitude to sex with other people can make it easier to settle down with just one, wheras the one who believes in a monogamous lifestyle for whatever reason are unable to accept their lovers wish for other lovers.

    I have known partnerships where those who wish to live monogamously do try and meet their partner's wishes. It has invariably proved disasterous, although sometimes it has worked as they have found their attitudes change. I have known partnerships which are monogamous because that is how one party wishes it. I live in such a partnership. It is not I who wishes it, but because of the depth of feeling I have for my partner I live as she wishes. It is easier for me to make the sacrifice because of how we think and feel.

    I have known one relationship which ended because the partner of one agreed to try a more swinging lifestyle, and when she found she enjoyed it her partner found his own insecurities and possessive nature come to the fore. Apparently the idea was more attractive than the reality.

    All relationships run the risk of one or both parties cheating. I believe it more likely although not inevitable that where one who wishes a more open sexual lifestyle has agreed to be monogamous, they will cheat at some time in the relationship. It seems to make a lot of sense to me. No relationship of any kind is immune to cheating, but the type in which I have agreed to live is probably more likely to find the more open partner cheating. This does not absolve them of the crime. On the contrary it is a breaking of a promise to a partner and lover, and is as reprehensible as any other kind of cheating.

    No relationship will ever be perfect. All we can do is try and love our partner as best we can and make them as happy as we can. In a relationship we all make sacrifices, and sometimes it works and probably just as often it does not.

    As bisexuals we do not have an automatic free ride to fuck whoever and whenever we choose. We are not special and we are not that different from gay or heterosexual people. We live in a world where to make relationships work we have to give and take, although not necessarily like for like.

    Monogamy or polyamory or any other way of living is no more enlightened or unenlightened than any other, sexually speaking. They are ways of living which work for some but do not for others. Because we are so varied in our morality and our beliefs in how we should live there will always be mismatches and problems as people struggle to make relationships work. There will be casualties and much misery. That sad to relate, is the lot of far too many people. Our very variety in what we want will always make it this way. There will also always be glorious successes from those struggles.
    Last edited by sammie19; Jul 22, 2010 at 7:59 AM.

  28. #28

    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Well expressed Sammi

    Going outside an agreement is unfortunate. Is it reprehensible? I'm not sure but it is sad if the agreement can not be revised to both party's satisfaction. When agreements are founded and factors are unknown that is a problem when they surface. When societal values make one approach to live as acceptable and another as unacceptable with moral condemnations added in to boot, it is no wonder that the monosexual partner finds difficulty accepting bisexuals. The societal expectation for monogomy is deeply ingrained within the values and morals of our society just as heterosexuality is deeply ingrained. When one partner refuses to re neogitate the agreement or enter into a relationship with a bisexual with monogamous restrictions , then the bisexual is placed in a position of decision making.

    There does not seem to be much leeway even on this bisexual website for much creative thinking among bisexuals. Basically, most adhere to a normative monogamous relationship but I may be mis reading. Certainly the concept of coupledom is the mainstay here. It is within society as well. I rarely read of a lot of solutions for people like the OP offerred on this site.

    Those bisexuals who find themselves in relationships with a monogamous thinking partner are not given much support beyond talk to your partner. Best, if this issue had been explored before the agreement but life is not perfect. Sometimes, it is the monosexual who has issues that prevent a "talk" from resolving it and due to societal expectations about monogamy make it impossible even for a discussion. This is not the OP but an example...if a bisexual enters an agreement with a monosexual who has been sexually abused, there are going to be problems. If the monosexual has not resolved that part of their life and even if they have it is going to be very difficult to talk to them about such bisexual issues. If the community rejects bisexuality, then almost impossible for a bisexual to begin such a discussion with such a person. If the bisexual "thought" that they might be able to ignore their bisexuality, then there are going to be real big problems that "talking" may not resolve. Sometimes a bisexual finds a solution other than giving up the relationship. Sometimes it is to go outside of the relationship and not discuss it. Sometimes, that is the best solution.

    How many of us are emotionally prepared to deal with a partner going outside of our relationship? I don't think that we are and it part it is societal norms of expectations prevent us from being prepared. We get feelings of betrayal etc. As Just4 states, we feel bad for going outside without permission. We are raised to believe that is not the solution for either parties. Is it? Is too much emphasis placed on sex as a factor in a relationship? Is too much emphasis placed on monogamy in determining a relationship? We seem ill prepared for much beyond everyone will remain faithful. There are unwritten/unspoken/un negotiated agreements in some longer term relationships. Don't ask me. Don't tell me. ...but if you are caught..it is your fault.

    When I look back on a major love of mine who cheated on me. I see how neither of us were prepared to really not place "monogamy" as the sign of be allness in our relationship. I certainly did. She was a wonderful sexual bisexual woman that I was ill prepared to talk to about it. I denied my own bisexuality at that time or I don't think that I even knew about the term. She told me that she had never been "faithful" to any man ....somehow I thought that I was different because she loved me and so she would be faithful(duh..dumb ass me). Even she had concepts about monogamy that prevented her from continuing in a relationship after that point. I understand that she now has some kind of "relationship" that is more open. I saw her recently after 15 years....sigh...too bad.
    Last edited by tenni; Jul 22, 2010 at 12:11 PM.

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

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    Since Darwin’s day, we’ve been told that sexual monogamy comes naturally to our species. Mainstream science—as well as religious and cultural institutions—have maintained that men and women evolved in families in which a man’s possessions and protection were exchanged for a woman’s fertility and fidelity. But this narrative is collapsing. Fewer and fewer couples are getting married and divorce rates keep climbing as adultery and flagging libido drag down even seemingly solid marriages.

    How can reality be reconciled with the accepted narrative? It can’t be, according to renegade thinkers Christopher Ryan and Cacilda Jethá. While debunking almost everything we “know” about sex, they offer a bold alternative explanation in this provocative and brilliant book.

    Ryan and Jethá’s central contention is that human beings evolved in egalitarian groups that shared food, child care, and often, sexual partners. Weaving together convergent, often overlooked evidence from anthropology, archeology, primatology, anatomy, and psychosexuality, the authors show how far from human nature monogamy really is. Turns out, human beings everywhere and in every era have confronted the same familiar, intimate situations in surprisingly different ways. The authors expose the ancient roots of human sexuality while pointing toward a more optimistic future illuminated by our innate capacities for love, cooperation, and generosity.

    With intelligence, humor, and wonder, Ryan and Jethá show how our promiscuous past haunts our struggles over monogamy, sexual orientation, and family dynamics. They explore why long-term fidelity can be so difficult for so many; why sexual passion tends to fade even as love deepens; why many middle-aged men risk everything for transient affairs with younger women; why homosexuality persists in the face of standard evolutionary logic; and what the human body reveals about the prehistoric origins of modern sexuality.

    In the tradition of the best historical and scientific writing, Sex at Dawn unapologetically upends unwarranted assumptions and unfounded conclusions while offering a revolutionary understanding of why we live and love as we do.

    The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.
    —A. A. Milne
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY

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    Re: I hate monogamy.

    Quote Originally Posted by sammie19 View Post
    I have known partnerships where those who wish to live monogamously do try and meet their partner's wishes. It has invariably proved disasterous, although sometimes it has worked as they have found their attitudes change. I have known partnerships which are monogamous because that is how one party wishes it. I live in such a partnership. It is not I who wishes it, but because of the depth of feeling I have for my partner I live as she wishes. It is easier for me to make the sacrifice because of how we think and feel.

    I have known one relationship which ended because the partner of one agreed to try a more swinging lifestyle, and when she found she enjoyed it her partner found his own insecurities and possessive nature come to the fore. Apparently the idea was more attractive than the reality.
    Sammie,

    Thank you for this post. As I said, my husband has agreed that I can have a girlfriend, just not a boyfriend. I think he is doing this to accommodate my polyamorous desires. But your post makes me worry. If I have a girlfriend, will that create problems for us?

    To everyone else:

    It's not the monogamy that I'm complaining about, really. I told my husband quite early in our relationship that I had trouble with monogamy and he and I have always worked it out. It's not my husband that I'm having a problem with. It's the outside world. It's just that no one understands my desire for polyamory. If I express interest in extramarital relationships, people act like I don't love my husband. But I love him so much. It hurts me when people say that I don't. I wish people could understand that I just like sex and it doesn't have anything to do with anything else. But no one seems to get that.
    Last edited by kcatthegreat; Jul 22, 2010 at 1:37 PM.

 

 

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